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Old 10-22-2018, 08:27 AM   #18461
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Yea you can flash your fancy electronic motor to 700... but what can you flash my Cmodel to?

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Old 10-22-2018, 08:51 AM   #18462
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I would do the SDP’s for that kind of money.
The S480 with a 1.45 would work pretty well after it lights, but you’re going to struggle even more than you currently do with smoke on the shifts if you go to the 480.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the bark when you downshift is what is causing the shaft play that you have. The shaft play is an indication that the thrust bearing is starting to die.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:04 AM   #18463
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First time for everything.
My CAT 3/4 wouldn't touch two of the mains on 130 and the 150psi, then we backed in a service truck with 170psi on a 1" gun, no dice. Got out the 17:1 planetary and put somewhere around (I'm guessing) 75lbs of input torque on it. I wish I had used my torque wrench to know exactly how much was on it. Click the image to open in full size.

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Old 10-24-2018, 01:56 PM   #18464
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First time for everything.
My CAT 3/4 wouldn't touch two of the mains on 130 and the 150psi, then we backed in a service truck with 170psi on a 1" gun, no dice. Got out the 17:1 planetary and put somewhere around (I'm guessing) 75lbs of input torque on it. I wish I had used my torque wrench to know exactly how much was on it. Click the image to open in full size.

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Old 10-24-2018, 03:13 PM   #18465
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:02 PM   #18466
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Alright, another truck question.
Looking at an 03 W900L with an 8 bag under it. Not sure which one yet. If I buy the truck it needs (at least) the front end lowered. Pull the blocks out of the front, probably go to the short shackles, and see what its like at that point.
Question is, how far can the front come down before I need to worry about drive line angle?
When I lowered my Western Star I went down 3” in the front and didn’t have any issues. That was with the AirLiner rear suspension.
I know some guys are going to think this is nuts, but I’m 6’3” and the front of the hood is as high as head. That’s just not acceptable......
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:25 PM   #18467
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:29 PM   #18468
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Alright, another truck question.
Looking at an 03 W900L with an 8 bag under it. Not sure which one yet. If I buy the truck it needs (at least) the front end lowered. Pull the blocks out of the front, probably go to the short shackles, and see what its like at that point.
Question is, how far can the front come down before I need to worry about drive line angle?
When I lowered my Western Star I went down 3” in the front and didn’t have any issues. That was with the AirLiner rear suspension.
I know some guys are going to think this is nuts, but I’m 6’3” and the front of the hood is as high as head. That’s just not acceptable......


How long is the truck? Short it’s going to look stupid, longer and it won’t look like your driving a 1985 Monte Carlo with a mullet.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:13 PM   #18469
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How long is the truck? Short it’s going to look stupid, longer and it won’t look like your driving a 1985 Monte Carlo with a mullet.
318” wheelbase.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:22 PM   #18470
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Could put a car hauler front axle under it too. I don't know too much about the kw 8 bag, I've driven two but never payed much attention. Can you move the mounts up like the early Pete low air? If you can just lower the back equalish to the front with a taller 5th wheel and set up an over inflate valve to get in and out of parking lots where your tanks will hit.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:09 PM   #18471
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Could put a car hauler front axle under it too. I don't know too much about the kw 8 bag, I've driven two but never payed much attention. Can you move the mounts up like the early Pete low air? If you can just lower the back equalish to the front with a taller 5th wheel and set up an over inflate valve to get in and out of parking lots where your tanks will hit.


It could already have it. A lot of KW’s have 5” drop axles and have blocks and long shackles to raise it back up. Lots of T660’s do this and I’m not sure why. Mine has the 5” drop which is 3” wider. Plus the disk brake hubs I added are another 1” wider so I can almost turn and check my own tail lights.

I bet at 318” he’s not going to have any issues with the rear. I had ordered a Horst kit with the AG springs for my steering but after waiting for at least 3+ months I said screw it. Apparently making a few brackets is too difficult for house of air. Could chew them out with a hand file in that length of time.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:35 PM   #18472
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Gotcha, never really looked at the t600 or t660 I drove for awhile. 600 ended up on it's side in a ditch in Nebraska after I got hit head on by a Pete with a bull rack that fell asleep. climbed up and down the rear suspension of that one twice so I could go through the drivers window to grab stuff out of the truck but didn't look at how it was set up.

How do you like the air disks? Last year when I did king pins my axle failed the go gauge due to it being a little egged out. Shimmed it up tight to get by figuring I'd replace it next time around. Just scene I can get a complete disk axle from vanderhaags in Sioux falls for $750. And rear cut off with disks in the 2-3k range. I've been seriously considering switching mine over. Haven't heard anything bad about disks so far and from what I've heard they make dot inspections a breeze.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:02 PM   #18473
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Could put a car hauler front axle under it too. I don't know too much about the kw 8 bag, I've driven two but never payed much attention. Can you move the mounts up like the early Pete low air? If you can just lower the back equalish to the front with a taller 5th wheel and set up an over inflate valve to get in and out of parking lots where your tanks will hit.
I wondered about a car hauler axle also.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:33 PM   #18474
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It could already have it. A lot of KW’s have 5” drop axles and have blocks and long shackles to raise it back up. Lots of T660’s do this and I’m not sure why. Mine has the 5” drop which is 3” wider. Plus the disk brake hubs I added are another 1” wider so I can almost turn and check my own tail lights.

I bet at 318” he’s not going to have any issues with the rear. I had ordered a Horst kit with the AG springs for my steering but after waiting for at least 3+ months I said screw it. Apparently making a few brackets is too difficult for house of air. Could chew them out with a hand file in that length of time.
What is the difference in length between the long shackles and the short shackles?
What are the chances of an 03 having the 5” drop axle?
I’m not looking to go crazy lowering it, just don’t like how the W900’s tend to be SO tall in the front.
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:40 PM   #18475
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What is the difference in length between the long shackles and the short shackles?

What are the chances of an 03 having the 5” drop axle?

I’m not looking to go crazy lowering it, just don’t like how the W900’s tend to be SO tall in the front.
Here are the long ones. The short are easily 2+ inches shorter. That’s a 5”drop in the pic. Click the image to open in full size.

Call a KW dealer with the VIN and they can tell you what axle it is.

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Gotcha, never really looked at the t600 or t660 I drove for awhile. 600 ended up on it's side in a ditch in Nebraska after I got hit head on by a Pete with a bull rack that fell asleep. climbed up and down the rear suspension of that one twice so I could go through the drivers window to grab stuff out of the truck but didn't look at how it was set up.

How do you like the air disks? Last year when I did king pins my axle failed the go gauge due to it being a little egged out. Shimmed it up tight to get by figuring I'd replace it next time around. Just scene I can get a complete disk axle from vanderhaags in Sioux falls for $750. And rear cut off with disks in the 2-3k range. I've been seriously considering switching mine over. Haven't heard anything bad about disks so far and from what I've heard they make dot inspections a breeze.

Love them. Have had several in the shop with 400k+ on original pads. Nothing to adjust, nothing to grease. I got a front axle and a 2016 cutoff for $3200. Cutoff was junk, 2.64 Kevin Rutherford gears in Meritor axles. Front axle tube was bent and big hole in the power divider. Stole the brakes/hubs off of them, Sold the 5th wheel off of it for $1000 and the rest of the suspension for $1500. Sold my old hubs for $600 so I almost got them all for free.

Scale house told me that they have never put a truck out of service with air disk. The only inspection is to look in the caliper. If they can’t see the backing plate your good to go.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:27 PM   #18476
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The only problem I've seen with the bendix disks we have were drivers not releasing the parking brakes driving through them. That and a recall for the caliper mounting bolts being under torqued.

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Anyone that buys a Prostar/Lonestar or any IH product needs their face set on fire and put out with an ice pick.

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And add to the fact Cummins felt the need to make you remove the damper to pull the head.
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Why you have to pul the damper? Ive never needed to in order to get the head off
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I'd guess someone didn't realize the bottom 2 holes are slotted on the cover
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Old 10-27-2018, 02:24 PM   #18480
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I'd guess someone didn't realize the bottom 2 holes are slotted on the cover


Not all are slotted. It’s as random as the scissor gear.

The real question should be why do I have to pull the cam to pull the head.
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