H2O injection

[6.4 F-350]

Not meaning to split hairs but in the tipical A/W setup the tank isn't pressurized so wouldn't it be open ended? Not trying to say tortarted is correct just making a observation.

[ClamDigger4]

Originally Posted by 6.4 F-350

Not meaning to split hairs but in the tipical A/W setup the tank isn't pressurized so wouldn't it be open ended? Not trying to say tortarted is correct just making a observation.

I'm pretty sure dv was referring to turdinators terrible analogy of comparing a blown intercooler boot to a a2w system.

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[Joesixpack]

Phuck. Hate to forward T-bag's point.... but a 40gpm fixed displacement hydraulic pump will provide no more pressure than a 40gpm centrifical low pressure pump PROVIDED the air to water core has very little restriction and there should be little restriction.

Open center hydraulics when no function is active does have a very low pressure, as opposed to closed center and full system pressure even at idle. (dead headed)

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.

[6.4 F-350]

Originally Posted by Joesixpack

Phuck. Hate to forward T-bag's point.... but a 40gpm fixed displacement hydraulic pump will provide no more pressure than a 40gpm centrifical low pressure pump PROVIDED the air to water core has very little restriction and there should be little restriction.

Open center hydraulics when no function is active does have a very low pressure, as opposed to closed center and full system pressure even at idle. (dead headed)

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.

I agree that it's a complete waste but could be done, that's all. He is still a know it all Jackwagon. And I think to argue the point the way he does is just not productive, the op observed something on a puller and had questions Jeremy gave him the correct answer bs insues. Argue no matter wat. Lol

[DISTURBED]

Originally Posted by Joesixpack

Phuck. Hate to forward T-bag's point.... but a 40gpm fixed displacement hydraulic pump will provide no more pressure than a 40gpm centrifical low pressure pump PROVIDED the air to water core has very little restriction and there should be little restriction.

Open center hydraulics when no function is active does have a very low pressure, as opposed to closed center and full system pressure even at idle. (dead headed)

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.

A 40gpm electric pump turns at a constant rpm to flow 40gpm. A hydraulic pump turns at "x" rpm to flow 40gpm. Now make "x" 5000 engine rpms and what will it flow??????? The pumps I've seen turn no more then 2000 rpms

[ClamDigger4]

Originally Posted by DISTURBED

A 40gpm electric pump turns at a constant rpm to flow 40gpm. A hydraulic pump turns at "x" rpm to flow 40gpm. Now make "x" 5000 engine rpms and what will it flow??????? The pumps I've seen turn no more then 2000 rpms

Exactly. We are talking crank driven!! . Your bypass setup would need to flow 3,4,5 or more?? times the amount of what your actually putting to the intercooler at those rpms.


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[WUnderwood]

Originally Posted by Tormentor

Diesel, yes. Water injection, yes, on both of my personal diesels and they have had it for the last 9 years I have owned them.

Gotta give me more details than that. I want to know firsthand knowledge

[Joesixpack]

Originally Posted by DISTURBED

A 40gpm electric pump turns at a constant rpm to flow 40gpm. A hydraulic pump turns at "x" rpm to flow 40gpm. Now make "x" 5000 engine rpms and what will it flow??????? The pumps I've seen turn no more then 2000 rpms

Jesus Christ you'd obviously gear it and flow it to the rpm's if you were stupid enough to use one.

[straight 6 roar]

Originally Posted by Tormentor

As usual you're trolling and making wrong assumptions.
I never said they were not used for water injection. Any pump can be driven from a crankshaft.


What pressure? A/W circulation pumps need high flow, not pressure. Anyone that can build an air/air core to stand 100+psi boost can build the same for air/water as well.

Nice back pedal, with a pile of more bullchit to dance around your misconceptions.


Saying that taking a restriction off of a high pressure pump will make it into a high flow pump is ludicrous. They are designed very differently and will have piss poor performance if you use them as stated in your back pedal cover ups.

[ClamDigger4]

Originally Posted by Joesixpack

Jesus Christ you'd obviously gear it and flow it to the rpm's if you were stupid enough to use one.

So you have a pump that is geared to handle 5500rpm but doesn't pump half of what you need at 3000? Yeah you can gear it to work but your shooting yourself in the foot.

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[ClamDigger4]

Pretty sure everyone agrees It's a dumb idea....

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[dvst8r]

Originally Posted by 6.4 F-350

Not meaning to split hairs but in the tipical A/W setup the tank isn't pressurized so wouldn't it be open ended? Not trying to say tortarted is correct just making a observation.

While they are not purposefully pressurized, by function an intercooler core is a restriction as is the pluming. They are sealed, and do run pressure, albeit typically less then 5psi.

[dvst8r]

Originally Posted by ClamDigger4

I'm pretty sure dv was referring to turdinators terrible analogy of comparing a blown intercooler boot to a a2w system.

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This, and what I just wrote.

[Tormentor]

DISTURBED, you're obviously a plain ol' moron, I'm done dealing with you. Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by ClamDigger4

Yes I know nothing about hydraulics.

Thats the gist of it.

I don't deal with This stuff.

Then please, explain how you "don't" deal with a broken hose. What happens to the line pressure? What comes out of the hose? Do you still have 2000psi in the line, or does the pressure drop to near zero and all the oil gets pumped onto the ground?

Originally Posted by dvst8r

How is a closed loop a/w setup open ended?

What happens when you open the valve to fill your bathtub with water? Is the bathtub pressurized to 50psi like the water before the valve?

Seriously morons/trolls, if your intercooler water core is restrictive enough to make significant inlet line pressure, you either have an extremely large pump or you're extremely stupid.

Originally Posted by Joesixpack

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.

Nobody ever said what kind of pump was seen. It very well could have been a centrifugal pump or rubber vane pump (like a marine raw water pump).

Originally Posted by 6.4 F-350

He is still a know it all Jackwagon.

I don't know it all, and have never claimed to. If I did I would be answering every thread here. I just know more than many of the trolls here.

Originally Posted by straight 6 roar

Nice back pedal

What backpedal? I had to simplify and expand my explanation for you idiots to understand. An example to follow;

Saying that taking a restriction off of a high pressure pump will make it into a high flow pump is ludicrous.

I never said that, you're making an assumption.

[Tormentor]

Originally Posted by ClamDigger4

Pretty sure everyone agrees It's a dumb idea.

No, just the dumb people. It is a fantastic idea to use a raw water pump to circulate water through the intercooler core. No electric, durable, cheap and rebuildable.

[cquestad]

All that matters is gpm at < 5 psi...and most hydraulic pumps dont have it.

Tormentor...why dont you just make a point instead of of being a total jackazz.

Your theory is correct...but you have not appplied it or given a single fact. I will do it for you later after i open myy pump catelog...

[ClamDigger4]

Originally Posted by Tormentor

No, just the dumb people. It is a fantastic idea to use a raw water pump to circulate water through the intercooler core. No electric, durable, cheap and rebuildable.

Do it then!!!

As for dependable I have ran the same rule pumps in the 8 different patrol boats for over 3 years while I was running them. I ran one for over 4 hours strait on two different occasions. Kept my stuff from sinking!

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[FV SarahBrent]

Did not intend for my question to turn into a sheeite storm. I was looking at a very fast set-up from georgia at the rudy's race. The geardriven pump on the front of the motor, I just assumed it was for the H2o injection. I specialize in killing swordfish and tuna, not H2o injection. lol.....

[Tormentor]

Originally Posted by cquestad

Tormentor...why dont you just make a point instead of of being a total jackazz.

Why don't you read my posts instead of being an ignorant fool?

Your theory is correct...but you have not appplied it or given a single fact.

Sorry, that is false information.

[Tormentor]

Originally Posted by ClamDigger4

Do it then!!!

I don't need to, both of my vehicles have an alternator to supply an unlimited duration of current and they are not dedicated pullers.

Originally Posted by FV SarahBrent

Did not intend for my question to turn into a sheeite storm.

It wasn't you at all, it was the idiot trolls who know nothing about hydraulics.