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RacinDuallie · 11-19-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by c12h26

Yea don't need that big of injector, i think a 5x14 would be more then enough fuel for what i want to do

Lmfao. I have a set of extrude honed 4 hole second gen marine nozzles on modified first gen bodies that would shame a 5x14. Lmao.

Come on man.

c12h26 · 11-19-2018, 05:25 PM

What can't make power with 5x14's. I honestly think there is some more left in the stock injectors

RacinDuallie · 11-19-2018, 05:30 PM

I honestly like the 4 holed nozzles over the 5 holed on a VE. But again that's just personal preference.

RacinDuallie · 11-19-2018, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonc

There is a black 2wd "rat rod" I guess youd call it that races and I'm almost positive it's a VE pump. Runs mid 10's if I remember correctly. Like an early 30's ford pickup body or something similiar.

He started out with a 6.5 naturally aspirated GM diesel in it. I gave him my low milage hx35 off my truck so he can turbo it, he did and it ran much better. He was a regular at the division 5 races we had....

Doug is phucking good peeps.

c12h26 · 11-19-2018, 05:41 PM

Your probably right, the stock 4 holes are great

smokinVE · 11-19-2018, 05:53 PM

Didn’t Brad’s daughter cut a high 11 on a “stock” 12mm with just fuel? She did have the advantage of a lock up transmission though.

RonA · 11-19-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bponci

Its possible. Would be easier with a 47rh thou.

This is the post that matters most. Brad has been working on powerful VE trucks for a long time(Remember Stomp). His daughter races one as well. If he says it's possible, I wouldn't bet against it. He didn't say it would be easy though.

c12h26 · 11-19-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smokinVE

Didn’t Brad’s daughter cut a high 11 on a “stock” 12mm with just fuel? She did have the advantage of a lock up transmission though.

Yea I think an 11.60 something, im pretty sure it had a built motor, compounds, and 47rh, still impressive for a VE forsure.

RacinDuallie · 11-19-2018, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by c12h26

Yea I think an 11.60 something, im pretty sure it had a built motor, compounds, and 47rh, still impressive for a VE forsure.

lock up trans, pay attention. Might be attainable, not easy.

RacinDuallie · 11-19-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by c12h26

Your probably right, the stock 4 holes are great

not stock, extrude honed..... Tried multiple sets...... Multiple pins, custom grinds, 3200, 3200 clipped, 3800, 3800 clipped and 4200- 4200 clipped gov springs, multiple AFC mods, fuel inlet mods to the ve, different lift pumps, lol. Been there. Graduated to 13mm p-pump. Lol.....

Highwayman · 11-19-2018, 06:22 PM

The aftermarket wouldn’t exist if you could make a jillion ponies with stock junk.
Big power rotary pumps would be more popular if they weren’t prone to seizing.
Lockup>non lockup, not even sure why this is an issue unless it’s just a “because I [think] I can”

I hope you get it figured out, regardless. Going fast is cool.

ofelas · 11-19-2018, 06:30 PM

I applaud your verve.

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Originally Posted by c12h26

I probably have more experience racing 1st gens then anyone else on this forum

c12h26 · 11-19-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinDuallie

not stock, extrude honed..... Tried multiple sets...... Multiple pins, custom grinds, 3200, 3200 clipped, 3800, 3800 clipped and 4200- 4200 clipped gov springs, multiple AFC mods, fuel inlet mods to the ve, different lift pumps, lol. Been there. Graduated to 13mm p-pump. Lol.....

I cut the AFC lever off, a clipped 354 spring and a jumper to the ksb on my pump. Oh yea and and a tooth with the pump pushed over to the head.

RacinDuallie · 11-19-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by c12h26

Yea a 30's ford is not a 1st gen. Thats a cool truck tho only weights 3050 with driver. help tune that thing back in the day.

You said you helped tune it back in the day, yet dont know if it's a Ford or Chevy.

c12h26 · 11-19-2018, 08:35 PM

Dude that was like 6 years ago lol, plus all the trucks looked the same in those years.

smokinVE · 11-19-2018, 09:06 PM

Quitter!

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Originally Posted by RacinDuallie

not stock, extrude honed..... Tried multiple sets...... Multiple pins, custom grinds, 3200, 3200 clipped, 3800, 3800 clipped and 4200- 4200 clipped gov springs, multiple AFC mods, fuel inlet mods to the ve, different lift pumps, lol. Been there. Graduated to 13mm p-pump. Lol.....

My “big set” is 138* 5x18 that flow 6.3 or something like that? Been a while..

OP, chase the dream, I hope you make it! It’s a lofty goal but you are using that silly gas that scares most VE guys.

*JQmile* · 11-20-2018, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by c12h26

Dude that was like 6 years ago lol, plus all the trucks looked the same in those years.

Glad to see you back man....you’ve been 11s already haven’t you? I think a badass transbrake launch and a little more weight loss would do 10s.

*JQmile* · 11-20-2018, 01:33 AM

If I remember right Tom Collins made 609rwhp with a 12mm on w/m and spray, that could do 10s I think.

c12h26 · 11-20-2018, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JQmile

Glad to see you back man....you’ve been 11s already haven’t you? I think a badass transbrake launch and a little more weight loss would do 10s.

No that 12.3 was my quickest pass. You need to get your truck to the track.

*Snedge* · 11-20-2018, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RacinDuallie

Lmfao. I have a set of extrude honed 4 hole second gen marine nozzles on modified first gen bodies that would shame a 5x14. Lmao.

Come on man.

You like those do ya?

OP, I think the problem with your posts is the use of the word "easy".... It's a slap in the face to drag racers. The faster you go the harder 10ths are to come by. I do wish you luck on your quest, and look forward to seeing your progress.

11-19-2018, 05:25 PM	#62
c12h26 Name: c12h26 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rising sun, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 157	What can't make power with 5x14's. I honestly think there is some more left in the stock injectors __________________ 1965 D100 non intercooled 12v 4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.

11-19-2018, 05:30 PM	#63
RacinDuallie Name: RacinDuallie Title: Black Sheep Racing Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Supporting Northeast Diesel Racing Member`s Gallery Posts: 17,369	I honestly like the 4 holed nozzles over the 5 holed on a VE. But again that's just personal preference. __________________

11-19-2018, 05:41 PM	#65
c12h26 Name: c12h26 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rising sun, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 157	Your probably right, the stock 4 holes are great __________________ 1965 D100 non intercooled 12v 4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.

11-19-2018, 08:35 PM	#75
c12h26 Name: c12h26 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rising sun, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 157	Dude that was like 6 years ago lol, plus all the trucks looked the same in those years. __________________ 1965 D100 non intercooled 12v 4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.

11-20-2018, 01:33 AM	#78
JQmile Name: JQmile Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,976	If I remember right Tom Collins made 609rwhp with a 12mm on w/m and spray, that could do 10s I think. __________________ 89 Dodge 972rwhp on the hose, still a VE!