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01-23-2017, 09:16 PM
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Name: dangerous06
Title: diesel tech
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DEF in the diesel tank!?
Got a customer that has a 2014. He lent the truck to a friend and he put a gallon of DEF in the diesel tank! Then filled the truck and drove it.
WHAT is DEF and what will it do to the fuel system?
He says the truck runs like crap was told the injectors are shot and will cost
14k to replace everything that was effected! That is a dealer quote!
Anybody have any info on this crap? Is it acidic or caustic or?
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01-23-2017, 09:26 PM
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Name: CorneliusRox
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The bad news: I've heard of trucks getting "totalled" because of this.
Good luck!
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01-23-2017, 09:37 PM
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Name: dangerous06
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Did a bunch or reading and yes he's screwed!
It eats metal! Anything fuel related needs to be replaced!
Wow what a nightmare dealerships drool when this situation is towed in!
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48RE, 5" exhaust,Carrillo rods, Pacbrake!
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01-23-2017, 09:39 PM
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Name: RDPsmoker
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01-23-2017, 10:02 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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DEF in the diesel tank!?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous06
Got a customer that has a 2014. He lent the truck to a friend and he put a gallon of DEF in the diesel tank! Then filled the truck and drove it.
WHAT is DEF and what will it do to the fuel system?
He says the truck runs like crap was told the injectors are shot and will cost
14k to replace everything that was effected! That is a dealer quote!
Anybody have any info on this crap? Is it acidic or caustic or?
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It's water and urea.
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01-23-2017, 10:14 PM
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Name: TheBac
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Doesnt Dodge have a water separating system? Why not drain the fuel tank and flush the fuel system first and then react?
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01-23-2017, 11:20 PM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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I can't believe people can't see the BLUE lid and the word "DEF" when they open the fuel door.
If he needs injectors and a CP3, I think I can help him out.
Mark.
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01-24-2017, 01:26 AM
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Name: JNewman92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous06
Got a customer that has a 2014. He lent the truck to a friend and he put a gallon of DEF in the diesel tank! Then filled the truck and drove it.
WHAT is DEF and what will it do to the fuel system?
He says the truck runs like crap was told the injectors are shot and will cost
14k to replace everything that was effected! That is a dealer quote!
Anybody have any info on this crap? Is it acidic or caustic or?
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Everything on the fuel system side will need to be replaced, all oem an cummins lines flushed an tank cleaned out. Definitely not a cheap mistake. Although mixing it the other way around isn't that costly, see that every now an then.
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01-24-2017, 06:08 AM
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Name: 4x4dually
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Holy crap. I had no idea it was that devastating. MAGA! Boycott DEF!
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01-24-2017, 06:13 AM
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Name: biggy238
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Lengthy repair. Everything congeals.
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01-24-2017, 06:25 AM
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Name: Snedge
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Tell him to turn it in to his insurance. It is qualified as an accident.
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01-24-2017, 06:37 AM
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Name: zfaylor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBac
Doesnt Dodge have a water separating system? Why not drain the fuel tank and flush the fuel system first and then react?
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You should see what DEF does to metal. It is insanely corrosive to steel and aluminum.
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01-24-2017, 06:42 AM
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Name: 4x4dually
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snedge
Tell him to turn it in to his insurance. It is qualified as an accident.
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The truck or what he should do to his friend?
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01-24-2017, 06:44 AM
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Name: Snedge
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It's a well known fact that friends are a double edged sword.
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01-24-2017, 06:48 AM
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Name: 4x4dually
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Truer words have never been spoken. Trust your neighbors, brand your cattle, and change all your trailer plugs to something no one uses.
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01-24-2017, 07:09 AM
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Name: BRE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4dually
Truer words have never been spoken. Trust your neighbors, brand your cattle, and change all your trailer plugs to something no one uses.
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Words to live by!
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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01-24-2017, 08:45 AM
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Name: chris lang
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I work at a truck dealership. You'd be surprised how often this happens. We even get some in where the driver fills the def tank with diesel. Not sure how they get the nozzle in there, but by damn they figure it out.
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01-24-2017, 08:58 AM
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Name: BRE
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We see it pretty regular as well...
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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01-24-2017, 09:57 AM
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Name: dangerous06
Title: diesel tech
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Wow that's amazing would think once in a blue moon but no stupid runs rampant!
Glad he can do the insurance!
Mark Yes Ic an use a set of injectors and a CP3 For a 6.7 Is there a difference between the 12 to 14 15?
Also do you have any 5.9 heads that are rebuildable? Can use 3 right now!
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E.D. 66-74-091, T-4 exhaust, 2 Micron filter pre CP3, EFI, S&B intake, ARP 625 head studs, 182-214 Hamilton Cam,springs and push rods,40% injectors, Banks Intercooler, T&C CP-3 & PRV, Built
48RE, 5" exhaust,Carrillo rods, Pacbrake!
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01-24-2017, 10:13 AM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Supposedly the 13 and up injectors are different and cause injector codes, if they are wrong, but some people are saying they aren't different.
Who knows for sure?
I may have 3 heads, but I'm not shipping anything heavy at the moment
It's muddy as heck here and I can't get back there to load a transmission, much less cylinder heads.
Mark.
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