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05-05-2012, 10:45 PM
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Name: TreePuller
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Smarty or H&S
I have been looking to get rid of my pmt ever since it screwed my truck up, but dont know which tuner to go with the H&S or The smarty? im looking for decent power gain and as much smoke as i can get. I will be adding more mods in the future as well.
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05-05-2012, 11:32 PM
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Name: fire power
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Why do you want so much smoke??
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05-05-2012, 11:35 PM
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Name: Scooter's Roofing
Title: Too Much Time
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don't feed the trolls
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that's pretty much all of it
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05-05-2012, 11:57 PM
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Name: Crysis
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
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A Smarty can't make a dummy smarter....
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S&B CAI & Intake | Diamond Eye 5" TBE | Garmons Stage 2 48RE w/Billet output |BD Super B Special | DDP 110s| Smarty TNT-R | Airdog 150 | Arson III kit | Snow's Stage 2 kit | 180* Thermostat | Edge CS Insight |
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05-06-2012, 12:15 AM
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Name: TreePuller
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i know smoke is not a good thing and im not saying thats all i want to do. i pull everyday. jsut looking for the best tuner not looking to get lectured on how black soot is bad. i am also curious about the tnt software? 
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05-06-2012, 12:20 AM
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Name: Scooter's Roofing
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I would highly recommend getting a google subscription
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that's pretty much all of it
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05-06-2012, 12:25 AM
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Name: TreePuller
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thanks forrest 
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07.5 6.7 2500, 5 tbe, pmt, afe
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05-06-2012, 12:27 AM
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Name: Scooter's Roofing
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FWIW either will work well on your truck, both have cleaned up their tunes and shouldn't make excessive smoke
I wish my truck didn't smoke at all 
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05-06-2012, 01:02 AM
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Name: Goose
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Originally Posted by TreePuller
i know smoke is not a good thing and im not saying thats all i want to do. i pull everyday. jsut looking for the best tuner not looking to get lectured on how black soot is bad. i am also curious about the tnt software? |
Make up your mind on what you want. Then decide which website to post your needs.
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05-06-2012, 02:29 AM
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Name: JessyPayne
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H&S FTW..... I really liked the tunes, I had them on my 2008 Cummins.
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05-06-2012, 09:06 AM
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Name: rolncoal82
Title: Too Much Time
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I sold my truck so ive got the H&S mini max if your interested
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05-06-2012, 10:59 PM
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Name: 5150cummins
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phuck all the smoke, go EFI Live, make the truck run! plus it'll be much more benifical for your future mods.
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05-08-2012, 10:04 PM
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Name: brucer
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
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If anyone doesn't like smoke they should buy a gasser.
They don't do EFI live for my truck so can't comment there but I sure enjoy the performance outta my black maxx...and I haven't got as far as the MCC they released today which allows custom tuning.
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05-08-2012, 10:20 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by brucer
If anyone doesn't like smoke they should buy a gasser.
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You should tie a trash bag around you head as tight as you can so the stupidity won't leak out anymore!
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-08-2012, 10:37 PM
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Name: brucer
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
You should tie a trash bag around you head as tight as you can so the stupidity won't leak out anymore!
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see the name o'this forum? u ever seen a decent diesel that don't smoke? pull ur head outta ur a**
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'12 Ram 3500 SRW MC Longhorn Rambox | Black Maxx, deletes, nav/OD unlock, H&S intake boost tube, GDP grid delete, ARP 625's, 5" SS TBE w/Aero Turbine, aFe cold air, full 3" Carli suspension, Silent Armors on 20" M19's
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05-08-2012, 10:56 PM
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Name: 5150cummins
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Brucer This puts me in mind of you
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98 12valve 2.6 in the making
97 12 valve reg cab
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05-09-2012, 09:57 AM
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Name: 4neatr
Title: Armor your truck
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Originally Posted by brucer
see the name o'this forum? u ever seen a decent diesel that don't smoke? pull ur head outta ur a**
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That all depends on what you call "decent"! With EFI, I have built a tune that puts me just over 500 to the ground and absolutely NO SMOKE! I love it for DD and towing, EGT's don't go over 1100deg. And the name of this forum is Competition Diesel, not blow as much smoke as you can diesel. Remember, smoke means unburnt fuel, that equals a loss in efficiency/power.
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05-09-2012, 12:51 PM
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Name: brucer
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
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 - seems like I mighta been speakin my mind a bit last night
Can't view the vid here but all I can say is great if people can make power without smoke, 500 is impressive with no smoke - haven't seen that before...but I ain't seen everything. I personally don't try to 'make' smoke but my truck does smoke now and again and it's humerous how people get upset about it - hence the comment about gassers.
Back on track to the question, as mentioned I enjoy my Black Maxx and if you want to make smoke then go ahead. My buddy runs a smarty and has a little over 900 at the wheels - and his makes a LOT of smoke
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05-09-2012, 01:24 PM
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Name: takedown95
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by 4neatr
Remember, smoke means unburnt fuel, that equals a loss in efficiency/power. |
I am completely against blowing black smoke in a street application but if you're talking about the formation of soot this statement is not true.
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05-09-2012, 09:41 PM
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Name: Gibson
Title: There's no love in diesel
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Be honest with ya, every single 6.7 that had come in with a blown head gasket or stretched head bolts has had a Bully Dog or H&S. And STOCK turbo. Havnt had a smarty tuned truck blow a head gasket YET. I'm sure it's bound to happen but evey person I've sold a smarty to usually keeps the power down low or had a 366-472 charger and head studs.
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2003 Dodge 2500 Cummins QC SRW
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