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Old 03-21-2010, 10:34 AM   #1
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Fleece VGT controller, 12V and twins?

We need more techincal infromation about your Holset VGT controller.

What signals is neede for Your VGT for operation?

I plan to build Twin VGT' using He431VGT and He551VGt , I have two options ether use your controller(s) or convert the chargers to mechanical VGT

I want to control bouth chargers .

Do I need 2 controllers?

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Old 03-22-2010, 10:52 PM   #2
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I would use only one VGT and use a large fixed geometry for the atmosphere charger.

We dynoed a 2009 6.7 last friday with 120 sticks, stock pump, airdog, DD SBC, and an HE451 at 648/1438 rwhp. With more fuel it would go higher. It makes around 50 psi and is clean as a pin.

The 12 valve controllers are in the works right now.

All model's from 1998.5-2005 are covered currently, and will control any HE series turbo, you just specify when ordering.

Keep the questions coming and we'll use this thread for tech.

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Old 03-22-2010, 10:53 PM   #3
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BTW .. Electronics are good keep them on the turbo(s).

EDIT: We have the ability to run them in parallel so if you want to go "Wide Open" you can run a triple setup.. Twin HE351's with an S480.
 
Old 03-22-2010, 10:58 PM   #4
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What is the ETA on your 12v controllers?
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:11 PM   #5
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What is the ETA on your 12v controllers?
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:26 PM   #6
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Matt, I can hear the gears turning all the way down here....
 
Old 03-22-2010, 11:28 PM   #7
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:30 PM   #8
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So if i understand it right you guys solved vgt issue without converting to a mechanical style? Just verifying from all the stuff i read and watched on youtube. If ya wouldn't mind can i get a pm on a price on a controller and what i would need to make a 6.7 vgt work on my 5.9.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:22 AM   #9
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Matt, I can hear the gears turning all the way down here....
Lol... yup, I have a brand new 351VE & a 12V truck waiting (literally!) for the controlers release. (or a prototype )(hint;-)
I'm gonna dial it in as a single, then hang something special from Garrett under it soon after.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:01 AM   #10
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that's what I'm talkin about. I plan on using one for my tow rig. Can you imagine, 12 valve fuel with a Variable turbo. I'm ready man, put me on the list.
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So if i understand it right you guys solved vgt issue without converting to a mechanical style? Just verifying from all the stuff i read and watched on youtube. If ya wouldn't mind can i get a pm on a price on a controller and what i would need to make a 6.7 vgt work on my 5.9.
They're 495.00 for the 1998.5-2005 trucks. Yes we have them figured out with a calibratable boost map that you can tune realtime going down the road or on the dyno. You can program in a boost limit as well. If the boost get's to X amount, it opens the housing until the boost stabilizes.
 
Old 03-23-2010, 10:37 AM   #12
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The 12v controllers are coming along, they just need the ability to have multiple analog inputs which our current board doesn't have. You'll need a MAP sensor, tps input, and some sort of engine speed pickup.
 
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sweet looks like i need to find me a turbo. Now will the controller still work if say i decided to put an s400 under it, or will i have issues then?
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:42 PM   #14
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The controller will work with the HE turbo just fine.... If you twin it up with an S400 it would work just fine then too.
 
Old 03-24-2010, 04:07 PM   #15
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They're 495.00 for the 1998.5-2005 trucks. Yes we have them figured out with a calibratable boost map that you can tune realtime going down the road or on the dyno. You can program in a boost limit as well. If the boost get's to X amount, it opens the housing until the boost stabilizes.
Do you have them ready for shipping? I have a 04.5
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:13 PM   #16
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So the 6.7L controlled the HE451 just fine? So it would control a HE551VE as well...hmm...

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Old 03-24-2010, 07:21 PM   #17
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:16 PM   #18
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All model's from 1998.5-2005 are covered currently, and will control any HE series turbo, you just specify when ordering.



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Old 03-24-2010, 08:19 PM   #19
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Now I have another set of options to look into. Thanks a lot
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Damn I wish I would have known about this before I did my whole S471 single setup.
 
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