Mechanical advancing timing - Competition Diesel.Com

tinkertoy · 09-26-2019, 11:01 PM

I put senser on billet cover that I been working on for awhile and I advanced the pump 1 tooth which should be 5*! And ain’t got a Communication to ecm to pump so I got it fooling the ecm. The problem I’m having is it don’t start good, I put a new hotrod pump on and thought it was bad but I put my SO pump back on to check and it starts a little better but cranks a good bit!

I was wondering the ones that have advanced the timing and fooling the ecm how it started?

I know Industerial did it 10* by the gears.

If u advanced it and didnt move the senser or didn’t run Industerials gears please don’t reply!

mhuggler · 09-27-2019, 06:41 AM

Aside from the motley assortment of additional errors, did you really just say "it don't start good."? Wow.

zachu812 · 09-27-2019, 09:23 AM

What year is the truck? If it's an 01 or 02 you could advance the cam timing one tooth to get those 5* then just put an offset cam keyway in to put the cam back where it should be. That way the ECM doesn't know anything moved and you don't have to mess around with extra sensors.

***Timbeaux*** · 09-27-2019, 10:05 AM

Jesus.

tinkertoy · 09-27-2019, 10:26 AM

Zachu812 it’s a 01 and after sleeping on it that is 10* btdc on the crank! It runs great but slow starting.

tinkertoy · 09-27-2019, 10:35 AM

I plan on running a adjustable pump gear and playing with different degrees!

tinkertoy · 12-07-2019, 08:05 PM

Well I’ve left this here awhile and mhuggler keep your thoughts to yourself if u don’t know what I have done and just want to fly off the mouth!

But I don’t see advancing the cam would move the tone ring either unless u jumped a tooth on crank and that’s ten degrees.

I tried to find a guys number tonight that advance it ten degrees with the industrial gears and he said he was a little over 800 hp and burnt all 6 pistons out, I would like to play with this in the future and maybe see if some of the higher hp vp would benefit from it but I think ten is too much on this engines!

mhuggler · 12-07-2019, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tinkertoy

Well I’ve left this here awhile and mhuggler keep your thoughts to yourself if u don’t know what I have done and just want to fly off the mouth!

But I don’t see advancing the cam would move the tone ring either unless u jumped a tooth on crank and that’s ten degrees.

I tried to find a guys number tonight that advance it ten degrees with the industrial gears and he said he was a little over 800 hp and burnt all 6 pistons out, I would like to play with this in the future and maybe see if some of the higher hp vp would benefit from it but I think ten is too much on this engines!

I'm very familiar with the VP, but I'm also not disposed to assist someone that has clearly wasted tax dollars by sleeping through an available education. No matter what you state in your next post, you'll do it sounding like a complete moron.

tinkertoy · 12-07-2019, 09:11 PM

So your one of those guys that think there cute behind a key board!!! Go away I don’t need your education either!

And I don’t care what u think

mhuggler · 12-08-2019, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tinkertoy

So your one of those guys that think there cute behind a key board!!! Go away I don’t need your education either!

And I don’t care what u think

Much better! There's only a handful of mind-numbing moments in that one. Now we just need to introduce you to my friend, punctuation.

tinkertoy · 12-08-2019, 10:25 AM

Buddy I’m not on here to go back to school for grammar, if u don’t like how I type don’t read it! And u act like your paying your taxes for this your ****ing crazy!!!! If u don’t think it’s Feasible that’s your opinion, kind of like putting a cam in it doesn’t give u 200hp on a mild build.

You crack me up and your a real tool!!!!

mhuggler · 12-08-2019, 12:34 PM

monster50iii · 12-08-2019, 01:06 PM

mhuggler; theres no need to be a douche. If you cant help the guy, move on.

mhuggler · 12-08-2019, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by monster50iii

mhuggler; theres no need to be a douche. If you cant help the guy, move on.

It's ok. I'm done having my fun with Einstein.

tinkertoy · 12-08-2019, 08:19 PM

Yeah your cool you probably one these’s guys that has book smarts and can’t even put air in a tire!!!!! Lmao

jkretzer · 12-08-2019, 08:35 PM

I fear for the future of society

*RascalMafia* · 12-08-2019, 08:42 PM

Wow...

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tinkertoy · 12-08-2019, 09:06 PM

Yeah fellows I apologize I normally don’t argue with haters Especially on grammar lol and sometimes I type quick and don’t look at it but Geez this guy! I thought this site was a site to help others not think your dicks bigger than mine kind of deal!!!

09-26-2019, 11:01 PM	#1
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	Mechanical advancing timing I put senser on billet cover that I been working on for awhile and I advanced the pump 1 tooth which should be 5! And ain’t got a Communication to ecm to pump so I got it fooling the ecm. The problem I’m having is it don’t start good, I put a new hotrod pump on and thought it was bad but I put my SO pump back on to check and it starts a little better but cranks a good bit! I was wondering the ones that have advanced the timing and fooling the ecm how it started? I know Industerial did it 10 by the gears. If u advanced it and didnt move the senser or didn’t run Industerials gears please don’t reply!

09-27-2019, 06:41 AM	#2
mhuggler Name: mhuggler Title: One piece at a time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Uno, Pa. Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,523	Aside from the motley assortment of additional errors, did you really just say "it don't start good."? Wow. __________________ 2002 2500 4x4 ETH/DEE-F1 Mach 5's/62/65/12/Smarty/ATS Ex.manifold/AFE intake/TST Comp./.020 marine gasket/o-ringed/ARP studs/5"stacks/Airdog 150/Isspro guages/Southbend 3600 DD/3.54 gears/leveling kit/Bilstein 5100frt,5150rr/37" BFG A/T's on 18" Eagle 114's/Borgeson SS/DSS

09-27-2019, 09:23 AM	#3
zachu812 Name: zachu812 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2016 Member`s Gallery Posts: 419	What year is the truck? If it's an 01 or 02 you could advance the cam timing one tooth to get those 5* then just put an offset cam keyway in to put the cam back where it should be. That way the ECM doesn't know anything moved and you don't have to mess around with extra sensors. __________________ 1995 RCLB 4x4: H-pump, 5x.012s, HX35 2001 RCLB 4x4: H-pump, 6x.013s, S472/S488 EdzGarage, Matt's Diesel Supply, HTS Transmissions

12-08-2019, 12:34 PM	#12
mhuggler Name: mhuggler Title: One piece at a time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Uno, Pa. Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,523	__________________ 2002 2500 4x4 ETH/DEE-F1 Mach 5's/62/65/12/Smarty/ATS Ex.manifold/AFE intake/TST Comp./.020 marine gasket/o-ringed/ARP studs/5"stacks/Airdog 150/Isspro guages/Southbend 3600 DD/3.54 gears/leveling kit/Bilstein 5100frt,5150rr/37" BFG A/T's on 18" Eagle 114's/Borgeson SS/DSS

12-08-2019, 01:06 PM	#13
monster50iii Name: monster50iii Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Medford, MN Member`s Gallery Posts: 141	mhuggler; theres no need to be a douche. If you cant help the guy, move on. __________________ 2008 LMM - 80% Stix, S&S 10mm cp3, s369sxe

09-27-2019, 10:26 AM	#5
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	Zachu812 it’s a 01 and after sleeping on it that is 10* btdc on the crank! It runs great but slow starting.

09-27-2019, 10:35 AM	#6
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	I plan on running a adjustable pump gear and playing with different degrees!

12-07-2019, 08:05 PM	#7
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	Well I’ve left this here awhile and mhuggler keep your thoughts to yourself if u don’t know what I have done and just want to fly off the mouth! But I don’t see advancing the cam would move the tone ring either unless u jumped a tooth on crank and that’s ten degrees. I tried to find a guys number tonight that advance it ten degrees with the industrial gears and he said he was a little over 800 hp and burnt all 6 pistons out, I would like to play with this in the future and maybe see if some of the higher hp vp would benefit from it but I think ten is too much on this engines!

12-07-2019, 09:11 PM	#9
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	So your one of those guys that think there cute behind a key board!!! Go away I don’t need your education either! And I don’t care what u think

12-08-2019, 10:25 AM	#11
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	Buddy I’m not on here to go back to school for grammar, if u don’t like how I type don’t read it! And u act like your paying your taxes for this your ****ing crazy!!!! If u don’t think it’s Feasible that’s your opinion, kind of like putting a cam in it doesn’t give u 200hp on a mild build. You crack me up and your a real tool!!!!

12-08-2019, 08:19 PM	#15
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	Yeah your cool you probably one these’s guys that has book smarts and can’t even put air in a tire!!!!! Lmao

12-08-2019, 08:35 PM	#16
jkretzer Name: jkretzer Title: MegaCrank Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hunting, fishing or at work Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,444	I fear for the future of society __________________ 98 12v, DTT auto, ADT Motor, Mid-Atlantic Diesel Tuning and Twins. 62/13/s400 56 chevy shortbed restomod, 2wd, cummins 4bt, nv4500.

12-08-2019, 08:42 PM	#17
RascalMafia Name: RascalMafia Title: heyyyyyyy girrrrrrrl Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Middle GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,514	Wow... Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ '18 Chevy 2500 '14 Cruze Diesel '04 Lincoln Towncar '01 F350 7.3 / ZF6

12-08-2019, 09:06 PM	#18
tinkertoy Name: tinkertoy Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: eubank ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 436	Yeah fellows I apologize I normally don’t argue with haters Especially on grammar lol and sometimes I type quick and don’t look at it but Geez this guy! I thought this site was a site to help others not think your dicks bigger than mine kind of deal!!!