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J-Pipes · 04-12-2019, 11:44 AM

Will do, still trying to look at all options as I get time, really need to get it fixed and driving, but free time is a rare commodity right now.

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J-Pipes · 04-12-2019, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JWhite

Check out the drilled / slotted setups on AM autoparts

Wow, think I may roll the dice on them. Can get the complete set, pads and rotors, for about the cost of a single rotor elsewhere!

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JWhite · 04-13-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Pipes

Wow, think I may roll the dice on them. Can get the complete set, pads and rotors, for about the cost of a single rotor elsewhere!

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My buddy has been happy with the drilled/ slotted on his 08 Ram, and also bought a set for the charger.

J-Pipes · 04-13-2019, 05:29 PM

Well I ordered the pads and rotors from the 3rd gen setup as an upgrade. Now I need to order calipers, and thinking I should replace the original soft lines to the calipers. That leads to the new question, do I need to get the 3rd gen lines as well, or do the 2nd gen lines work with the 3rd gen calipers?

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J-Pipes · 04-15-2019, 05:43 PM

Got it all ordered, now just waiting on it, and then trying to find time to do it! 3rd gen pads, rotors, and calipers, 2nd gen lines.

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J-Pipes · 04-27-2019, 11:19 AM

Got these installed last weekend, everything seems to be working good. Had to modify the banjo bolt that hold the brake line to the calipers a little, was just barely to big of a shoulder to seat down right, chucked them into the drill press and knocked the shoulder down with a file. Other than that, was just a normal brake job. Only drawback is I still have a vibration of some sort over 60mph, was really hoping it was the stuck caliper!

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smoken02 · 04-27-2019, 09:00 PM

The stuck caliper or A stuck caliper? A stuck caliper would make it pull in that direction when you let go of the wheel.

Got Smoke? · 04-28-2019, 04:35 AM

I did the GM wheel cylinder upgrade on a 99 I had years ago with a dana 70.

There was definitely a noticeable difference that justified the price and work for it.

J-Pipes · 04-28-2019, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by smoken02

The stuck caliper or A stuck caliper? A stuck caliper would make it pull in that direction when you let go of the wheel.

I had a seized piston in one caliper, did the third gen conversion. I know the u-joints in the front axle are bad, only other thing I can think of is the front drive shaft.

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J-Pipes · 04-28-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Smoke?

I did the GM wheel cylinder upgrade on a 99 I had years ago with a dana 70.

There was definitely a noticeable difference that justified the price and work for it.

I haven't tackled the rear yet, but do plan to upgrade the wheel cylinders when I do.

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biggy238 · 04-28-2019, 09:37 AM

I did the cylinder upgrade in my 96 years ago and the problem I had was that if the brakes were adjusted at all, the rear tires would lock on a hard brake and the truck would try to jack-knife.

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thatguy69 · 04-28-2019, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by biggy238

I did the cylinder upgrade in my 96 years ago and the problem I had was that if the brakes were adjusted at all, the rear tires would lock on a hard brake and the truck would try to jack-knife.

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This is true with mine, especially in the snow it gets extra sketchy because the rear locks up so easy

bwdt · 07-14-2019, 03:44 PM

Hope you got your project done and are happy with it. Love mine and will never go back. On side note, my truck was the very first truck to ever do this, you can read about it on diesel truck resource under big brake update, slowflyer 2112.

Tobin · 07-14-2019, 04:37 PM

Drilled rotors are a marketing scam. They do nothing except increases your chance of a crack initiation site and also substantially decrease your surface area. Slotted isn't necessary either.

bateman · 07-15-2019, 11:09 AM

I did the one ton cylinders in my d80. The rear brakes are phenomenal. Too phenomenal, fact. I'm about ready to bypass the RWAL.

Spinny · 09-02-2019, 09:33 PM

As I understand it. You must have an 01-02 axle for doing the 3rd gen brake upgrade because they don’t have press on rotors.

For the rear brakes the GM wheel cylinders and bypassing the load proportioning valve is about all you can do. The 2000 model trucks had the biggest drum brakes of the 2nd gens.

J-Pipes · 09-02-2019, 10:43 PM

Then I got lucky! My truck is actually a 2001 model year, but has a very early build date. Most of the things that were changed between those years is the older style, except the front axle! So far the 3rd gen fronts have been working great, still should overhaul the rear drums though.

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04-12-2019, 11:44 AM	#21
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Will do, still trying to look at all options as I get time, really need to get it fixed and driving, but free time is a rare commodity right now. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

04-13-2019, 05:29 PM	#24
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Well I ordered the pads and rotors from the 3rd gen setup as an upgrade. Now I need to order calipers, and thinking I should replace the original soft lines to the calipers. That leads to the new question, do I need to get the 3rd gen lines as well, or do the 2nd gen lines work with the 3rd gen calipers? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

04-15-2019, 05:43 PM	#25
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Got it all ordered, now just waiting on it, and then trying to find time to do it! 3rd gen pads, rotors, and calipers, 2nd gen lines. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

04-27-2019, 11:19 AM	#26
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Got these installed last weekend, everything seems to be working good. Had to modify the banjo bolt that hold the brake line to the calipers a little, was just barely to big of a shoulder to seat down right, chucked them into the drill press and knocked the shoulder down with a file. Other than that, was just a normal brake job. Only drawback is I still have a vibration of some sort over 60mph, was really hoping it was the stuck caliper! Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

04-27-2019, 09:00 PM	#27
smoken02 Name: smoken02 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Streator, Illinois Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,412	The stuck caliper or A stuck caliper? A stuck caliper would make it pull in that direction when you let go of the wheel. __________________ 14' Cummins C/C DRW 3500 4x4 G56 94’ Reg Cab 4x4 Just Rollin R.I.P 02 Dodge QC/SB 4x4, Drag Comp,BD RAD, ARP studs, DDP HRVP44, HTT 62/71/14,SDX 200's,Killer B, Goerend trans,Billet input shaft, Billet Flexplate, AirdogII 200gph pump 13.16 @ 104mph 1/4 mile Aaron

04-28-2019, 04:35 AM	#28
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	I did the GM wheel cylinder upgrade on a 99 I had years ago with a dana 70. There was definitely a noticeable difference that justified the price and work for it. __________________ Mark 2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II. 1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater. 2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods

04-28-2019, 09:37 AM	#31
biggy238 Name: biggy238 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just North of Wrong Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,865	I did the cylinder upgrade in my 96 years ago and the problem I had was that if the brakes were adjusted at all, the rear tires would lock on a hard brake and the truck would try to jack-knife. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ Check out @bdmaximusworx 05.5 Campanella White TDi Jetta 5spd 45.5MPG -Little Sexy '10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped Insta @trash.panda250

07-14-2019, 03:44 PM	#33
bwdt Name: bwdt Title: engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 455	Hope you got your project done and are happy with it. Love mine and will never go back. On side note, my truck was the very first truck to ever do this, you can read about it on diesel truck resource under big brake update, slowflyer 2112. __________________ 2000 LBQC 4X4 w/3:54 gears and an Allison 5 Speed Transmission, 271 TC, DT Radius Arms, Quadzilla, smarty, Hamilton 188-208 cam, 62-68/12 Turbo, High compression 19.5 to 1 pistons, 180 hp injectors, O-ringed and studded, 19.5 Rickson wheels and Tires, Buckstop bumper. Last edited by bwdt; 07-14-2019 at 03:45 PM.

07-14-2019, 04:37 PM	#34
Tobin Name: Tobin Title: 5.7 IDI Powaa! Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oviedo, FL Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,506	Drilled rotors are a marketing scam. They do nothing except increases your chance of a crack initiation site and also substantially decrease your surface area. Slotted isn't necessary either. __________________ 2006 Dodge 2500 QCLB 4x4 Goerend 48RE 1977 F250 RCLB 4x4 "High Boy" 12 valve, 180 pump, 5x.014, S363/S475, Goerend 47RH, NP271, 2007 D60/Sterling 10.5, 40" Toyo MTs

07-15-2019, 11:09 AM	#35
bateman Name: bateman Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Alabama Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,672	I did the one ton cylinders in my d80. The rear brakes are phenomenal. Too phenomenal, fact. I'm about ready to bypass the RWAL.

09-02-2019, 09:33 PM	#36
Spinny Name: Spinny Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2019 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4	As I understand it. You must have an 01-02 axle for doing the 3rd gen brake upgrade because they don’t have press on rotors. For the rear brakes the GM wheel cylinders and bypassing the load proportioning valve is about all you can do. The 2000 model trucks had the biggest drum brakes of the 2nd gens.

09-02-2019, 10:43 PM	#37
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Then I got lucky! My truck is actually a 2001 model year, but has a very early build date. Most of the things that were changed between those years is the older style, except the front axle! So far the 3rd gen fronts have been working great, still should overhaul the rear drums though. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.