01' hard start/knock/tons of white smoke after injector install - Competition Diesel.Com

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:20 PM

A buddy of mine sent his injectors off to be rebuilt in his 01'....he installed them and vapor locked the motor, pulled the injectors and turned engine over cleaned out cylinders, re installed injectors and truck has a hard start, a ton of white smoke which turns to greyish when you give it fuel, truck has a miss and is not running very good and also has a knock

I went a looked the truck over today and cranked it, first it was hard to crank then same symptoms as above and it developed a knock about a minute after start up...... I revved it a couple of times then shut it off and it vapor locked again.....

an ideas?

roachie · 10-23-2011, 07:22 PM

Codes?

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:24 PM

he says no codes... I havent actually hooked a scan tool up to the truck....

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:24 PM

What do you mean by vapor lock? The fuel tank like a gasser?

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:28 PM

like it locks up and won't turn over....don't know the exact term sorry

JJeepyjohn · 10-23-2011, 07:28 PM

Im tryin to figure out the vapor lock?? When he installed the injectors did he pull the GPs and turn the engine over by hand to get rid of all the oil in the cylinders? Could be just a bunch of excess oil trapped in the cylinders and exhaust. If you get it started again dont rev it,just let it idle for awhile and see if things clear up,

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:29 PM

Hydro locked from fuel in the cylinder?

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJeepyjohn

Im tryin to figure out the vapor lock?? When he installed the injectors did he pull the GPs and turn the engine over by hand to get rid of all the oil in the cylinders? Could be just a bunch of excess oil trapped in the cylinders and exhaust. If you get it started again dont rev it,just let it idle for awhile and see if things clear up,

define: run a while?

it smokes pretty heavily..... he says he cleaned them out the second time to get all excess fuel and oil off the pistons

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJeepyjohn

Im tryin to figure out the vapor lock?? When he installed the injectors did he pull the GPs and turn the engine over by hand to get rid of all the oil in the cylinders? Could be just a bunch of excess oil trapped in the cylinders and exhaust. If you get it started again dont rev it,just let it idle for awhile and see if things clear up,

Thats what i was wondering if he drained the oil rail before pulling the injectors and now the cylinders are full of oil.

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DISTURBED

Hydro locked from fuel in the cylinder?

yes

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:33 PM

whats the knock from?

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:33 PM

Who rebuilt the injectors? Did they have all the o-rings put on them right

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DISTURBED

Who rebuilt the injectors? Did they have all the o-rings put on them right

Beans rebuilt them

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:35 PM

I would get a hold of Ryan

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:36 PM

he did, and they told him that they just run it for 100miles before it cleans up..... but drove the truck a few miles down the road and said he had to be towed home....sorry, I don't know much about powerstrokes

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:40 PM

It could still have air pocket in the oil rails and thats were the miss is coming from. Also did he put the cold start injector in the right cylinder?

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:42 PM

I believe so... he was saying something about 7 ab injectors and 1 ad or something like that..... but tell me where it should go as I am now helping him

DISTURBED · 10-23-2011, 07:44 PM

back cylinder on the drivers side. cylinder 8

Did he drain the rail by taking the rail plugs out or did he just pull the injectors?

Mudn_1 · 10-23-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DISTURBED

back cylinder on the drivers side. cylinder 8

Did he drain the rail by taking the rail plugs out or did he just pull the injectors?

Im trying to get ahold of him to ask him......

*ctdiesel99* · 10-23-2011, 07:48 PM

Tell him to give me a call in the morning. Sounds like there's a chit load of air in the system, and can take as much as 100 miles to work its way out, but if it's not even driveable, there may be something else going on.

10-23-2011, 07:20 PM	#1
Mudn_1 Name: Mudn_1 Title: Sweet Home Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trussville Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,290	01' hard start/knock/tons of white smoke after injector install A buddy of mine sent his injectors off to be rebuilt in his 01'....he installed them and vapor locked the motor, pulled the injectors and turned engine over cleaned out cylinders, re installed injectors and truck has a hard start, a ton of white smoke which turns to greyish when you give it fuel, truck has a miss and is not running very good and also has a knock I went a looked the truck over today and cranked it, first it was hard to crank then same symptoms as above and it developed a knock about a minute after start up...... I revved it a couple of times then shut it off and it vapor locked again..... an ideas? __________________ "One Up'N The Competition" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diese...73404032829197

10-23-2011, 07:22 PM	#2
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	Codes? __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

10-23-2011, 07:24 PM	#3
Mudn_1 Name: Mudn_1 Title: Sweet Home Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trussville Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,290	he says no codes... I havent actually hooked a scan tool up to the truck.... __________________ "One Up'N The Competition" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diese...73404032829197

10-23-2011, 07:24 PM	#4
DISTURBED Name: DISTURBED Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winchester, Va Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,417	What do you mean by vapor lock? The fuel tank like a gasser? __________________ Thanks, Jeremy 01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig 96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance 96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance

10-23-2011, 07:28 PM	#5
Mudn_1 Name: Mudn_1 Title: Sweet Home Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trussville Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,290	like it locks up and won't turn over....don't know the exact term sorry __________________ "One Up'N The Competition" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diese...73404032829197

10-23-2011, 07:28 PM	#6
JJeepyjohn Name: JJeepyjohn Title: Make Me Fries Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,807	Im tryin to figure out the vapor lock?? When he installed the injectors did he pull the GPs and turn the engine over by hand to get rid of all the oil in the cylinders? Could be just a bunch of excess oil trapped in the cylinders and exhaust. If you get it started again dont rev it,just let it idle for awhile and see if things clear up, __________________ 2001 F-350 CC LWB Island Blue TS Performance,Suncoast TC Full Force Diesel Stage 1 Injectors Police Interceptor Pkg. 1999 Dodge 2500 QC 2wd COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM 1998 Ranger Interceptor 6BT FIREPUNK Golden Nugget Competition Stage1 DPC Billet Triple Disc Converter

10-23-2011, 07:29 PM	#7
DISTURBED Name: DISTURBED Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winchester, Va Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,417	Hydro locked from fuel in the cylinder? __________________ Thanks, Jeremy 01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig 96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance 96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance

10-23-2011, 07:33 PM	#11
Mudn_1 Name: Mudn_1 Title: Sweet Home Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trussville Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,290	whats the knock from? __________________ "One Up'N The Competition" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diese...73404032829197

10-23-2011, 07:35 PM	#14
DISTURBED Name: DISTURBED Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winchester, Va Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,417	I would get a hold of Ryan __________________ Thanks, Jeremy 01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig 96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance 96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance

10-23-2011, 07:36 PM	#15
Mudn_1 Name: Mudn_1 Title: Sweet Home Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trussville Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,290	he did, and they told him that they just run it for 100miles before it cleans up..... but drove the truck a few miles down the road and said he had to be towed home....sorry, I don't know much about powerstrokes __________________ "One Up'N The Competition" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diese...73404032829197

10-23-2011, 07:40 PM	#16
DISTURBED Name: DISTURBED Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winchester, Va Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,417	It could still have air pocket in the oil rails and thats were the miss is coming from. Also did he put the cold start injector in the right cylinder? __________________ Thanks, Jeremy 01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig 96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance 96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance

10-23-2011, 07:42 PM	#17
Mudn_1 Name: Mudn_1 Title: Sweet Home Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Trussville Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,290	I believe so... he was saying something about 7 ab injectors and 1 ad or something like that..... but tell me where it should go as I am now helping him __________________ "One Up'N The Competition" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diese...73404032829197

10-23-2011, 07:44 PM	#18
DISTURBED Name: DISTURBED Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winchester, Va Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,417	back cylinder on the drivers side. cylinder 8 Did he drain the rail by taking the rail plugs out or did he just pull the injectors? __________________ Thanks, Jeremy 01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig 96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance 96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance Last edited by DISTURBED; 10-23-2011 at 07:45 PM.

10-23-2011, 07:48 PM	#20
ctdiesel99 Name: ctdiesel99 Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lansdale, PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,789	Tell him to give me a call in the morning. Sounds like there's a chit load of air in the system, and can take as much as 100 miles to work its way out, but if it's not even driveable, there may be something else going on. __________________ http://www.turn14.com 04.5 QC/SB 10.35 @ 135mph 2014 Jeep GC SRT