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05-19-2018, 12:20 AM
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Name: allan5oh
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One of these days I'm going to go to Antrim dyno day lay down like 600 RWHP and give you guys the finger as I leave very slowly.
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05-19-2018, 02:56 AM
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Name: lorendiesel5.9
Title: OG Hunnybadger
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Originally Posted by BRE
65-67mph in 18th is 1350~rpm 15lbs give or take.
70-72 is 1400-1450rpm with about the same forced air pressure.
Mind you, this trailer is heavy, 12ft spread, and is 53ft of sail.
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I'd say at this point the turbo being too small is still hurting your mileage
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05-19-2018, 06:45 AM
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#17323
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by allan5oh
One of these days I'm going to go to Antrim dyno day lay down like 600 RWHP and give you guys the finger as I leave very slowly.
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Bring your brother Leiffi.
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-19-2018, 09:49 AM
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#17324
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9
I'd say at this point the turbo being too small is still hurting your mileage
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I’m also agree... it’s in the works but he’s being tight.
I think on top of being too small, and also having to run with the waste gate blocked off is killing me.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-19-2018, 10:30 AM
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#17325
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by BRE
I’m also agree... it’s in the works but he’s being tight.
I think on top of being too small, and also having to run with the waste gate blocked off is killing me.
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*cough* 1995 5EK with Acert turbos. *cough*
Quote from owner “I can’t believe how much better this truck runs, turbos spool at 1100rpm”
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-19-2018, 11:27 AM
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Name: lorendiesel5.9
Title: OG Hunnybadger
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
*cough* 1995 5EK with Acert turbos. *cough*
Quote from owner “I can’t believe how much better this truck runs, turbos spool at 1100rpm”
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My single is lit at 1100, makes about 26psi depending on IAT.
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05-19-2018, 01:32 PM
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#17327
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Name: BRE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
*cough* 1995 5EK with Acert turbos. *cough*
Quote from owner “I can’t believe how much better this truck runs, turbos spool at 1100rpm”
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Let’s not be retarded... everyone knows those are junk. Why else would we be pulling them off those engines?
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-19-2018, 04:07 PM
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Name: Rig Wrench
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh
One of these days I'm going to go to Antrim dyno day lay down like 600 RWHP and give you guys the finger as I leave very slowly.
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Phew. 600. Hope you dont break anything.
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05-19-2018, 04:07 PM
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Name: Rig Wrench
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Originally Posted by BRE
Let’s not be retarded... everyone knows those are junk. Why else would we be pulling them off those engines?
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Backpressure. Duh
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05-19-2018, 04:27 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9
My single is lit at 1100, makes about 26psi depending on IAT.
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Now try that with a turbo large enough to work 800+hp
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-20-2018, 02:24 AM
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Name: allan5oh
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Have any of you guys done anything with e3 injectors?
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05-20-2018, 02:33 AM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
I doubt it’s that high on the gold standard euro dyno.
Ok to prove the single vs compound turbo argument in the real world again, my truck and friends are almost identical except for compression ratio. Both 3.55, 18spd 24.5lp. Engines are identical except his is 14:1 and mine is 16.5:1 which in this case doesn’t help the argument FOR singles and HP. His ran exactly 1100hp with a single HX82 and mine did 1138 last year with compounds. Mine will begin making boost at 1200rpm, his won’t begin to make boost below 1600rpm. (Barely makes 5psi with the jake so it’s more worthless than mine that makes 10psi) We’re looking for a smaller housing for him to try before he puts the compounds back on but there is a chance it will boost to the moon or surge. Guys that don’t actually need work their 1k+ HP trucks love singles, but I haven’t ran across any of these working unicorns in the wild. It might work in states that are so flat you can watch your dog run away for 2 days.
Oh and Leiffi we didn’t see a single Volvo or any euro engine there so maybe next year?
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HX82 is way too big for those power levels. I still have some turbines and compressors to make 1200 ho single that works from 1000 rpm upwards and stays cool enough for working. But someone needs to know how to tune. OK, HX60 works almost as well.
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05-20-2018, 02:45 AM
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#17333
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
Yea Taylor doesn’t know crap about building dyno’s. When they get the transmission in direct and click on “start” and the computer takes over they are manipulating the numbers.
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Start from for example 900 rom and click start, then telk me the numbers. Not from 3000 rpm or what ever the engine is free revving.
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05-20-2018, 02:55 AM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
This European dyno numbers or a working 1000hp. Or more Finnish BS?
You do realize the backpressure with twins has been debunked right? Unlike you I actually tapped the manifold, measured it and video’d the gauge. But please don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion.
Oh how did your countries latest universal basic income experiment work out? Socialism trial 64,546 failed again, shocking.
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I have had backpressure gauge for years, new engines have sensor, you can check it from diagnostics. Twins always have higher boist and backpressure, pumping losses are waste of power.
What basic income ? It was never even tried, someone only made a suggestion. But it might actually wirk.
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05-20-2018, 05:20 AM
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Why won’t you just go away?
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-20-2018, 08:51 AM
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Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRE
65-67mph in 18th is 1350~rpm 15lbs give or take.
70-72 is 1400-1450rpm with about the same forced air pressure.
Mind you, this trailer is heavy, 12ft spread, and is 53ft of sail.
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What are similar combos and applications doin for mpgs?
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05-20-2018, 08:57 AM
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Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
What basic income ? It was never even tried, someone only made a suggestion. But it might actually wirk.
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Been tried in experiment. Results vary depending on what side of the isle the person reporting is on.
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05-20-2018, 10:26 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
HX82 is way too big for those power levels. I still have some turbines and compressors to make 1200 ho single that works from 1000 rpm upwards and stays cool enough for working. But someone needs to know how to tune. OK, HX60 works almost as well.
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Well you might want to tell Holset that because they rate the 4.1 hx82 to 1200hp. But I guess you know more than the designer/manufacturers. Oh and with all the talk of knowing how to tune can you even tune a radio station?
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-20-2018, 10:28 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
I have had backpressure gauge for years, new engines have sensor, you can check it from diagnostics. Twins always have higher boist and backpressure, pumping losses are waste of power.
What basic income ? It was never even tried, someone only made a suggestion. But it might actually wirk.
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Paying people not to work, seems like a good communist idea.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-20-2018, 10:49 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
HX82 is way too big for those power levels. I still have some turbines and compressors to make 1200 ho single that works from 1000 rpm upwards and stays cool enough for working. But someone needs to know how to tune. OK, HX60 works almost as well.
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I forgot Leiffi my manifold turbo (before I went to the larger compressor wheel) was OEM off a 700hp QSX Cummins. So if an HX60 was better why didn’t Cummins use a 60? Or is this another example of you knowing more than the designer? Or could it be the 60 isn’t large enough to support a sustained 700hp? Which brings me back to the “working” hp and not blips on a dyno.
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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