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12-19-2012, 11:53 AM
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Name: silver03
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Correct injector size for Twins?
I'm building my 1st set of twins and can't decide on what size injector to run.
I was thinking 5X18's or 5X20's
Here are the specs on the motor
12V with Standard Bore
New 1st gen mahle pistons
CR ratio 17:1 ish to 18:1 ish...
New 1st gen Mahle pistons
Hamition 181 cam
180 P-pump with 4k gov springs, full cut DV, AFC full travel
24 deg. of timming
Ported head
ATS 3-pcs exhaust manifold
CNC valve Job 45* intake seats
Turbos are ED billet 66/74/14 over a an s480/1.32.
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12-19-2012, 11:58 AM
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Name: Smokem
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Power goal?
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12-19-2012, 12:14 PM
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Name: silver03
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streetable 800+
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12-19-2012, 12:19 PM
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Name: Smokem
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5x0.018" 155° cone angle, get different turbochargers.
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12-19-2012, 02:25 PM
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Name: silver03
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Get different turbos?
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12-19-2012, 03:01 PM
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Name: ClamDigger4
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I think a 66 is a bad choice. Something a little smaller would work much better if you want it "streetable"
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12-19-2012, 03:06 PM
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Name: jakerc69
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watching
Also interested in twin opinions from smokem.... the internet says these are the turbos to have.....
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12-19-2012, 03:12 PM
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Name: TMONEYDIESEL
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Not what you want for a secondary if streetable is your goal, have you already purchased these turbos, your primary?
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12-19-2012, 03:27 PM
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Name: Smokem
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People as consumers need to realize why certain products are common. A mass consumed product is only desireable if it is available, and easy to make a profit on, this goes for many things.
Now, the big question; Are these common parts right for you? Well that depends, are you willing to go the extra distance to have a setup that has the appropriate parts as a whole, or would you rather just order from a drop-down box? There is no one correct size of compound turbochargers for xxx amount of hp, no matter what the Google machine tells you.
Last edited by Smokem; 12-19-2012 at 03:30 PM.
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12-19-2012, 05:37 PM
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Name: silver03
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I guess when I say streetable I don't mean every day daily driver. I'm never going to tow with this set-up. Mostly just dyno and pull at brush pulls. I my last truck I ran a Hart HX-60, 13mm CDS ag, with a hand throtle. now that was boarder line streetable. 
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12-19-2012, 05:40 PM
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Name: Smokem
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There are a lot better turbos out there than what you have listed.
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12-19-2012, 06:16 PM
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Name: impmouse
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
There are a lot better turbos out there than what you have listed.
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if theres alot better turbo setups out there . please help us out and tell us .. with all the box stock turbos that are out there.... thats what we see 90 percent of the time
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12-19-2012, 06:24 PM
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Name: Smokem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by impmouse
if theres alot better turbo setups out there . please help us out and tell us .. with all the box stock turbos that are out there.... thats what we see 90 percent of the time
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You would like me to "tell us" what exactly? I see so often people only aware of the 74/83mm and 88/96mm S400 turbines, that is the entire range from the smallest to the largest, what about the other 4 options that fall in between?
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12-19-2012, 06:30 PM
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Name: SHughes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
You would like me to "tell us" what exactly? I see so often people only aware of the 74/83mm and 88/96mm S400 turbines, that is the entire range from the smallest to the largest, what about the other 4 options that fall in between?
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There are not four others, only the two.
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12-19-2012, 06:50 PM
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Name: pic_jon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHughes
There are not four others, only the two.
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12-19-2012, 07:11 PM
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Name: impmouse
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
You would like me to "tell us" what exactly? I see so often people only aware of the 74/83mm and 88/96mm S400 turbines, that is the entire range from the smallest to the largest, what about the other 4 options that fall in between?
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ok, than what size turbos would you go with ..on "silver03" motor, and fueling mods
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12-19-2012, 07:18 PM
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Name: zstroken
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silver03
I'm building my 1st set of twins and can't decide on what size injector to run.
I was thinking 5X18's or 5X20's
Here are the specs on the motor
12V with Standard Bore
New 1st gen mahle pistons
CR ratio 17:1 ish to 18:1 ish...
New 1st gen Mahle pistons
Hamition 181 cam
180 P-pump with 4k gov springs, full cut DV, AFC full travel
24 deg. of timming
Ported head
ATS 3-pcs exhaust manifold
CNC valve Job 45* intake seats
Turbos are ED billet 66/74/14 over a an s480/1.32. |
Are the 1st gen Mahle pistons New?? 
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12-19-2012, 07:24 PM
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Name: silver03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zstroken
Are the 1st gen Mahle pistons New?? |
Lol...new as in just out of the box. Not sure why i put new in there. It must of been a typo
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12-19-2012, 07:27 PM
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Name: zstroken
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silver03
Lol...new as in just out of the box. Not sure why i put new in there. It must of been a typo
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You listed them twice as well.
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12-19-2012, 07:30 PM
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Name: silver03
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I didn't buy these turbo's with the intension of building a twin set up originally. The S480 was the turbo off my Pulling truck i ran as a single and was going to run the ED 66 as a single this truck but now I've desided to go this route. I'm willing to change the set-up if someone has a better option!
Last edited by silver03; 12-19-2012 at 07:36 PM.
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