Fass Pump

[rollinsmoke]

Never had a fass before wonderin' if I should get one, but my question is does it do away with the stock filter and all the other junk banjo's and go straight from the tank to the injecton pump?

[Mudn_1]

yes if you buy the system it will do away with everything from the filter,main fuel line and banjo bolts!

[Burner]

I guess you gut the pump as well?

[B.A.Ram]

Basically. You plumb into your tank, run that into the FASS, and through the FASS you go straight to the VP. You have a low pressure return line from the FASS back into the tank from the separation process I believe. You lose the stock lift pump and the stock fuel filter canister. You lose the water in fuel light but if you drain your fuel filter on the FASS every once in a while you should be good. The FASS is a great investment.

[DieselLady]

http://www.dieselperformanceproducts.com/airdog.html
Or you can do the Air Dog for a lot less $$. Comes with 1/2" diam fuel lines instead of 3/8, fittings on all connections instead of hose clamps and is much easier to install. JMO

[B.A.Ram]

Originally Posted by DieselLady

http://www.dieselperformanceproducts.com/airdog.html
Or you can do the Air Dog for a lot less $$. Comes with 1/2" diam fuel lines instead of 3/8, fittings on all connections instead of hose clamps and is much easier to install. JMO

The FASS has push-locs, not hose clamps and only takes about 20 minutes to install...and 1/2" is a little overkill unless you're looking for BIG horsepower. IMO you can't beat the customer service of FASS, you have a problem and they fix it, no questions asked.

[DieselLady]

Originally Posted by B.A.Ram

The FASS has push-locs, not hose clamps and only takes about 20 minutes to install...and 1/2" is a little overkill unless you're looking for BIG horsepower. IMO you can't beat the customer service of FASS, you have a problem and they fix it, no questions asked.

That has not been my experience. Got a bad pump from the beginning and they argued about replacing it. Cost me $40 in shipping. The FASS has hose clamps on the return to the tank. Push locs which attach directly to the pump, so if you need to remove it, you have to cut the hose off. I have one and have had to remove it before so I am aware of how it goes together. This is just my opinion, and experience. I have the Air Dog too and found it to be much easier to install. No need to drill the frame. Comes with a much sturdier mounting bracket that clamps onto the frame instead of drilling to it.
So whats wrong with overkill for less money?

[tony597fitter]

AirDog (pureflow technologies) is the originator of the aftermarket pumps.
His son went opposite ways and started FASS.

I have read and heard that the AirDog uses a far superior pump.
If it was me I would go with the AirDog. Its cheaper and a better product.
It is also easier to find filters for it. You can get them at your local NAPA.

I have also read on other forums that FASS has horrible customer service.
This is only what I have heard and read.

[BigNasty4x4]

Originally Posted by tony597fitter

It is also easier to find filters for it. You can get them at your local NAPA.

I have also read on other forums that FASS has horrible customer service.
This is only what I have heard and read.

These statements are both false. I've had no problem with my FASS, or with customer service. It works flawlessly and the kit is very easy to install. The 150 pumps filters are cross referenced in the instruction manual to at least 15 filters including numerous Fleetguard filters. and I do believe thet FASS is working with Fleetguard to cross reference filters for the 95 pumps.

[tony597fitter]

Originally Posted by BigNasty4x4

These statements are both false. I've had no problem with my FASS, or with customer service. It works flawlessly and the kit is very easy to install. The 150 pumps filters are cross referenced in the instruction manual to at least 15 filters including numerous Fleetguard filters. and I do believe thet FASS is working with Fleetguard to cross reference filters for the 95 pumps.

OK if you say so.

[DieselLady]

What he said!!! My experience has been not just horrible customer service, but NO customer service at all. You can say it isn"t true if you want, but I went through it. Or the lack of it. I believe at the time I used the terms, "Argumentative" and "Arrogant". That pretty well sums it up for me. And if your pump worked flawlessly from the start, you wouldn't have had any opportunity to find out what there customer NO service is like anyway. You never really know what a company is like until you have a problem with their product.

[Jcummins]

If you buy the full system with the filters it goes straight to the injection pump. If you just get the pump you go to the stock filter housing.
From the looks of your sig., I would go with the full system.

The FASS has been around these Dodges for a long time. They know what works and have a great product. I have one and love it. With the VP44, I find it comforting to hear the scream of the lift pump. They are loud.
With that said, the AD systems are almost identical, made as said before, by the father of the FASS owner.
I work for a shop that has used the FASS on Dodges since the begining. We have only had one fail in many years. Not saying it's better than the AD, just that is what has been my expirience.

[tony597fitter]

Originally Posted by Jcummins

If you buy the full system with the filters it goes straight to the injection pump. If you just get the pump you go to the stock filter housing.
From the looks of your sig., I would go with the full system.

The FASS has been around these Dodges for a long time. They know what works and have a great product. I have one and love it. With the VP44, I find it comforting to hear the scream of the lift pump. They are loud.
With that said, the AD systems are almost identical, made as said before, by the father of the FASS owner.
I work for a shop that has used the FASS on Dodges since the begining. We have only had one fail in many years. Not saying it's better than the AD, just that is what has been my expirience.

AirDog (PureFlow technologies) was making them long before FASS. FASS is just a copy.

[rollinsmoke]

I didn't wanna start a big ole' war on here, but it's alotta money and just wanted to make sure that is the route I should go. Right now with my holley it's about 24 idle and I can drag it down to about 3 PSI W.O.T and I know them little lines are hurtin' me

[Jcummins]

Wait a minute. AD was making pumps yes, but for big rigs, right. FASS went after the Dodge, and smaller diesel crowd were he saw a nitch in the market.

I don't like saying things like this with out completly knowing both sides of the story. But from the info. that I have heard about the fued between AD and FASS, I don't think I could buy a pump from a guy that sued his own son.
Agian, I don't have all my facts, but there is very bad blood between the two.

Never heard of AD until about 3-4 months ago. Sooooo who is copying who?
AD or Purflow never made pumps for the small diesel until recently. FASS has been the first VP upgrade for years.

Both pumps are good. Both have a great history of reliability. The FASS was practicaly made for your truck. It was created for the purpose of saving your VP. AD has done thier homework and made a very competitive product.

[DieselLady]

Originally Posted by Jcummins

Wait a minute. AD was making pumps yes, but for big rigs, right. FASS went after the Dodge, and smaller diesel crowd were he saw a nitch in the market.

I don't like saying things like this with out completly knowing both sides of the story. But from the info. that I have heard about the fued between AD and FASS, I don't think I could buy a pump from a guy that sued his own son.
Agian, I don't have all my facts, but there is very bad blood between the two.

Never heard of AD until about 3-4 months ago. Sooooo who is copying who?
AD or Purflow never made pumps for the small diesel until recently. FASS has been the first VP upgrade for years.

Both pumps are good. Both have a great history of reliability. The FASS was practicaly made for your truck. It was created for the purpose of saving your VP. AD has done thier homework and made a very competitive product.

AD has been around for a long time. I have had one on my older truck for years. Ad did not Copy Fass, on the contrary. I for one, have a hard time buying from a guy who would "Borrow" a Patent from his own Dad!

[53 willys]

Decide for your self you copied who...

size comparison....


do your homework and decide for your self.....

[JFlagg]

Argument aside....I've had awesome customer service from FASS. Diesel-Dan even met near my house to bring me a new pump(old pump worked fine, but there was a warranty upgrade) He also helped me wrench on my truck on a Saturday in 30 degree weather in a gravel parking lot! I've called him personally and he has helped me alot...Not saying the Airdog is better or worse, personally I don't think you could go wrong with either one. I already have a FASS and I love it, great product with great customer service.

[2Tone12V]

Ive been hearing daddys system is better these days!

[2Tone12V]

Originally Posted by DieselLady

What he said!!! My experience has been not just horrible customer service, but NO customer service at all. You can say it isn"t true if you want, but I went through it. Or the lack of it. I believe at the time I used the terms, "Argumentative" and "Arrogant". That pretty well sums it up for me. And if your pump worked flawlessly from the start, you wouldn't have had any opportunity to find out what there customer NO service is like anyway. You never really know what a company is like until you have a problem with their product.

Sounds like Industrial Injection! They suck!