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02-23-2018, 05:52 PM
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#15961
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by Leiffi
Quite perfect for working engine for wide operating range. EBP is 0.5 bar higher than boost at max power. ECM tuning was not made for this turbo so it might get better. Works from 800 rpm up to 2100 rpm, optimal range 1000-1800 rpm. Max power about 1100 hp. No smoke and EGT stays in control.
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I totally believe it because you posted a random pic of a couple gauges.
Here’s mine, I removed the turbos and now it responds from 1-10,000 rpm and makes almost 4,000 euro HP. Swapped ecm’s with a Volvo and now it’s amazing.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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02-23-2018, 05:54 PM
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#15962
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Name: Leiffi
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by RockinRam96
My dad runs a 3406C, 3ZJ. At one time he had 25% over nozzles extrude hone and turned down the pump. He had some fuel leaking issues and replaced the nozzles with factory nozzles and turned the fuel back up. He thought there was less smoke and heat with the tuned pump and factory nozzles.
He has since rebuilt the motor with a 7FB pump on the C block, factory B nozzles and a Borg Warner 78 mm direct Cat replacement turbo and absolutely loves it. Says it is the best it has ever run with the most power and very little smoke, only when he shifts.
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No wonder, those pumps are so weak that oversize nozzles only drop injection pressure which causes bad atomizationn.
78mm turbo is way too big.
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02-23-2018, 07:01 PM
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#15963
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by Signature600
Good to know. We'll probably do another glider once this one is paid for, and was probably going to just call Fitzgerald....Not super impressed with Cincinnati Peterbilt doing this one, but it was their first.
Chris
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They’re not that hard to do once you’ve done a few.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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02-23-2018, 07:05 PM
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#15964
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Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
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Location: Hillsboro, Oh
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Originally Posted by Leiffi
Factory dyno so no BS dynoday inertia horsepower.
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Showing your ignorance again. When factory dyno setups throw 75% load on the engine/truck then you can talk about comparing, instead they are gradually brought up in old so engine has time to react.
You forget one glaringly simple fact, every truck ran that day is ran the same exact way, no operator involvement bull chit.
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02-23-2018, 07:09 PM
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#15965
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Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
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Location: Hillsboro, Oh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
No wonder, those pumps are so weak that oversize nozzles only drop injection pressure which causes bad atomizationn.
78mm turbo is way too big.
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An yet it will run perfectly fine contrary to what you think, you ingnore data that I can’t even access anymore about CFM being used on these engines from the factory and lbs/min calculations that show these engines are not being fed too much air, in fact they use every bit of it.
Maybe you should actually invest your own money instead of spewing **** that you think you learned because you have seen one of these engines in the last 10 years so you know everything.
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02-23-2018, 07:23 PM
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#15966
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
An yet it will run perfectly fine contrary to what you think, you ingnore data that I can’t even access anymore about CFM being used on these engines from the factory and lbs/min calculations that show these engines are not being fed too much air, in fact they use every bit of it.
Maybe you should actually invest your own money instead of spewing **** that you think you learned because you have seen one of these engines in the last 10 years so you know everything.
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I seriously think he has a mental disorder. You realize he has never backed up anything he’s ever claimed with any hard facts? Remember the bad arse L10 he bragged about that no one has ever seen? Now we have a 1100hp single charger something with no details other than its amazing.
Let’s see some engine pics and maybe a video of it actually doing what he’s claiming. Maybe a dyno sheet???
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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02-23-2018, 07:38 PM
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#15967
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Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
Quite perfect for working engine for wide operating range. EBP is 0.5 bar higher than boost at max power. ECM tuning was not made for this turbo so it might get better. Works from 800 rpm up to 2100 rpm, optimal range 1000-1800 rpm. Max power about 1100 hp. No smoke and EGT stays in control.
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How is the tuning not for that turbo? Doesn't make sense to me?
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02-24-2018, 08:51 AM
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#15968
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Name: Signature600
Title: THA MAN!
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Location: Jeffersonville, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
They’re not that hard to do once you’ve done a few.
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I'll call you when we're ready....
Chris
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02-24-2018, 10:25 AM
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#15969
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by Signature600
I'll call you when we're ready....
Chris
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DO NOT get a fitz engine whatever you do.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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02-24-2018, 10:27 AM
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#15970
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Name: SmokinCAT
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
They’re not that hard to do once you’ve done a few.
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After a few you even learn to check to see if Peterbilt even bolts the cross members in.
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02-24-2018, 11:43 AM
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#15971
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Name: Signature600
Title: THA MAN!
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Location: Jeffersonville, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
After a few you even learn to check to see if Peterbilt even bolts the cross members in.
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Damn. Sucks that people with one job to do can't even pull it off.
Chris
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Tim Barber @ TRE Diesel
Jeff Mumau @ Mumau Diesel Service
Rip @ Source Automotive
Don Thuren @ ThurenFab Suspension
Columbus Diesel Supply
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02-24-2018, 12:34 PM
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#15972
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Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
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Hmmmmm
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02-24-2018, 12:37 PM
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#15973
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Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
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What ive heard about fitzgerald is the trucks themselves are pretty much freightliner. They get a box with every bolt nut and zip tie. You wont find much difference there.
But they cut so many corners with the engines. Offshore parts, dont rebuild them correctly etc. I heard one guy bought 10 trucks not a single engine lasted 200,000 miles. Thats exactly why youre buying a glider FFS!
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02-24-2018, 12:44 PM
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#15974
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Name: Feed Bunk
Title: Too Much Time
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Buddy just bought a 97 t600. It has what appear to be single fiberglass front leaf springs. Has anybody ever seen that setup before?
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94 F250, 12v cummins, zf5
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02-24-2018, 12:50 PM
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#15975
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Name: malibu795
Title: 2wd numb nut
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Location: s. charelston ohio
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Originally Posted by Feed Bunk
Buddy just bought a 97 t600. It has what appear to be single fiberglass front leaf springs. Has anybody ever seen that setup before?
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The KW T880? dumps I drove while back had that setup in the front
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adam
99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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smooth seas never made a skillfull sailor
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02-24-2018, 12:53 PM
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#15976
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Name: malibu795
Title: 2wd numb nut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
After a few you even learn to check to see if Peterbilt even bolts the cross members in.
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Was Talking with Logan two days ago and he mentioned that.... one was gone and the other HUCK bolt was extremely loose.....He was less than happy about that
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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smooth seas never made a skillfull sailor
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02-24-2018, 12:54 PM
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#15977
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
After a few you even learn to check to see if Peterbilt even bolts the cross members in.
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It must be an option because the 2 from Findlay weren’t bolted or drilled but the rest from Cincinnati were.
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Originally Posted by allan5oh
What ive heard about fitzgerald is the trucks themselves are pretty much freightliner. They get a box with every bolt nut and zip tie. You wont find much difference there.
But they cut so many corners with the engines. Offshore parts, dont rebuild them correctly etc. I heard one guy bought 10 trucks not a single engine lasted 200,000 miles. Thats exactly why youre buying a glider FFS!
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McBee overhaul kits, they took some DDECII blocks and drilled them for piston coolers that didn’t work. Had some that used that j1939 conversion box that allows you to use the older DDEC3/N14/40pin cat ecm’s with the newer dash that had fan issues no one could fix. Now the ones with the Detroit remain engines are good as far as I’ve heard. They started paying more for core engines again. Friend sells them truckloads and for a while they didn’t pay crap.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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02-24-2018, 01:03 PM
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#15978
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Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
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I did a couple gliders. One cummins, one cat. They took some time, bur they were full bulids. I considered them better than factory finish as i took the time to do things like runn all the wired and hoses cleaner, made all braided grease lines, painted and powfercoated everything ect ect. Thats what takes the time. I saw one that Cleveland brothers did, i wasnt impressed. Especially when theengine(6NZ) had to be replaced in the first 6 months from acrank failure
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02-24-2018, 01:18 PM
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#15979
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Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Feed Bunk
Buddy just bought a 97 t600. It has what appear to be single fiberglass front leaf springs. Has anybody ever seen that setup before?
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You mean carbon fibre?
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02-24-2018, 01:26 PM
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#15980
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Name: Feed Bunk
Title: Too Much Time
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Maybe, idk they are not steel. I must be more ignorant than I thought, I just assumed every leaf spring on a truck was steel. Do the hold up well?
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94 F250, 12v cummins, zf5
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