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02-14-2018, 01:15 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Here's the color I picked for the frame and a few other parts. Axles will be black.
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02-15-2018, 07:34 AM
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Name: Red Sleeper
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That is going to be a pain to keep clean. Guess you plan on driving this mostly when the sun is out.
However, it will definitely be unique. Powder coat or painting that color?
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02-15-2018, 05:43 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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It's powder coated. It's definitely a fair weather only rig. Between the gravel roads in the summer and road salt in the winter. It lives a sheltered life lol.
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02-15-2018, 05:45 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Got this from Jerod tonight! Getting closer.
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02-15-2018, 06:02 PM
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Name: mfsuper90
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Originally Posted by Smokem
Why such a small intercooler?
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Still curious if this was sarcasm or not
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02-15-2018, 09:22 PM
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#106
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Name: Shaky93
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Originally Posted by mfsuper90
Still curious if this was sarcasm or not
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I am as well. All constructive criticism/input is welcomed here. We feel in this application, beings it isn't the only intercooler in the system it will be fine.
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02-15-2018, 10:23 PM
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Name: Smokem
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I had not seen another form of intercooling mentioned, even if the PT2000 was only used inter-stage it would still be on the small side for more than 170lb/min.
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02-16-2018, 08:15 AM
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Name: Freezingsystems
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Hmmm a 3rd gen chassis with long arms under a first gen. Seems as if I've seen this before. . Nice build.
Few things. As for the intercooler the water bungs look small. Could be the picture throwing me off. I'd run at least 1.25" NPT to move enough water volume to get the best thermal transfer you can to pull the heat from all that air.
Second the use of a trans brake with triples on a mechanical injected motor will cook a trans in short time. Plan to foot brake into boost and only use it when the first bulb gets lit. Max 2 to 3 seconds. You could benifit from using a lil bit of nitrous as a spool aid to get on the chargers quicker. This will extend your time between rebuilds on your trans. Plan for a seriously efficient trans cooler setup maybe use the return water from your air to water cooler to pass thru a water heat exchanger for your trans fluid. You'll need a small fortune in ice during events.
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02-16-2018, 11:22 AM
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Name: mfsuper90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
I had not seen another form of intercooling mentioned, even if the PT2000 was only used inter-stage it would still be on the small side for more than 170lb/min.
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Good to know, sounds like their “2000hp” was a pretty optimistic, for a diesel at least
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MF Super 90 various odds and ends done. Farm stocker
MF 98 3-71 screaming jimmy. Needs N90's. Another farm stock
'14 Ram Anarchy EFI, G56
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02-18-2018, 12:33 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freezingsystems
Hmmm a 3rd gen chassis with long arms under a first gen. Seems as if I've seen this before. . Nice build.
Few things. As for the intercooler the water bungs look small. Could be the picture throwing me off. I'd run at least 1.25" NPT to move enough water volume to get the best thermal transfer you can to pull the heat from all that air.
Second the use of a trans brake with triples on a mechanical injected motor will cook a trans in short time. Plan to foot brake into boost and only use it when the first bulb gets lit. Max 2 to 3 seconds. You could benifit from using a lil bit of nitrous as a spool aid to get on the chargers quicker. This will extend your time between rebuilds on your trans. Plan for a seriously efficient trans cooler setup maybe use the return water from your air to water cooler to pass thru a water heat exchanger for your trans fluid. You'll need a small fortune in ice during events.
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Haha well I Figured why would I try and reinvent the wheel? Your build with old ugly is TOP NOTCH. It seemed like a great place to start, as I was at the limit of a dana 70 and I really wanted a smoother ride. Frame strength was also an issue as you know. I want to go sled pulling some and this 3rd gen frame is 'UGE. Thanks and glad to see you've read through the whole thing!
1) Duly noted, they are 1". I have got to do a little welding on it anyways so enlarging the water ports to 1.25" wont be a problem. I got a smoking deal on this cooler and I needed one around this size so I couldn't pass it up. Would of been nice to have a bigger one but, It will do!
2) I was planning on using one, maybe two of Mishimoto's 25 Row Dual pass oil coolers for the transmission oil. I have got 2 stages of Nitrous to work with and was planning on including a .030 spool jet. I'll keep using the return water for additional cooling if need be. I never thought about that. Fortunately I have a deal worked out to go pick up ice from a couple of local places with commercial ice machines until I can get my own snagged up.
Thanks for the tips Chris!
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02-18-2018, 12:44 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
I had not seen another form of intercooling mentioned, even if the PT2000 was only used inter-stage it would still be on the small side for more than 170lb/min.
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I will keep this in mind for the future. I was thinking the 2k HP rating would not be likely for a diesel, and if it could handle 50% of that at peak efficiency on a diesel I would be in good shape. It may not be the most ideal but i'll make it work.
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02-18-2018, 12:51 PM
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Name: jasonc
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Are you doing any cage work?
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02-18-2018, 01:08 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonc
Are you doing any cage work?
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8.5 cert cage will be going into it.
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02-18-2018, 01:58 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Got some Yukon goodies in. Thank you to Yukon Gear and Axle and Tinman II Kustoms!!
4340 axles, new ring and pinions, master overhaul kits for front and rear, free spin hub kit, grizzly lockers, hopefully setup to minimize driveline issues.
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02-18-2018, 02:09 PM
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Name: Smokem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaky93
I will keep this in mind for the future. I was thinking the 2k HP rating would not be likely for a diesel, and if it could handle 50% of that at peak efficiency on a diesel I would be in good shape. It may not be the most ideal but i'll make it work.
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Hp rating isn't really applicable, the concern is core efficiency and it's ability to cool the IAT as much as desired. Most 3.0" smooth bore setups make well below that hp rating and typically use a three core intercooler.
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02-21-2018, 06:02 PM
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#116
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Name: Shaky93
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Today was good to us. Showed up a couple days before it was anticipated to. Thanks again to Will and the crew at Power Driven Diesel.
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02-21-2018, 06:19 PM
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#117
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Name: Mooner1
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Noice!!!
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02-21-2018, 06:26 PM
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#118
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Name: BRUTE
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power driven makes a great unit for sure! also love the amount of testing they do and video footage available on YouTube!
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02-22-2018, 05:22 AM
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#119
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Name: Red Sleeper
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Very cool! Looks like you have a good pile of parts sitting around. Time to assemble.
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02-22-2018, 07:56 PM
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#120
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Name: Shaky93
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I hate transmission problems so I'm glad to know this combo of transmission parts has been thrashed on harder than I will lol. very, very soon it will be assembly time. Parts are steadily streaming in.
A set of Manton's tool steel nitrided lifters showed up today these baby's are saweeet
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