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05-10-2009, 04:43 PM
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Name: shiftycapone
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Silverbullet vs s366
Other than a wastegated housing, and a polished compressor cover with a v-band outlet, what does II do to make the Silverbullet any different than an out of the box s366 such as this one?
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I am very curious. Bearing changes, oiling improvments, or just big name price tag?
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05-10-2009, 06:43 PM
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Name: Bjans
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the exhaust wheel is a diffferent size
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05-10-2009, 06:46 PM
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Name: White Knight
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They both have the same 73.4mm turbine exducer. I highly dought II has any custom wheels
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05-10-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by White Knight
They both have the same 73.4mm turbine exducer. I highly dought II has any custom wheels
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That's exactly what I'm saying, wheel dimensions are the same. I'm pretty sure the center sections are too, unless II uses only Borg wheels with their own center section, which I HIGHLY doubt as well. So other than the different housings, what else is different or better, to warrant a $2000 price tag? The warranty?
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05-10-2009, 08:33 PM
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i was told that charger its a box charger for a silver bullet. i called about it and if i remeber right its not wastegated so you could run a external gate setup
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05-10-2009, 08:55 PM
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or you could give htt 700 bucks for the 13 or 16 stainless gated housing and still be saving 700 from list price
i wonder if polishing the cover is that much? (700 dollars)
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guess you would also have to get a silicon 90° boot and do some plumbing too, since no stock elbow is gonna go on that turbo
ps - highly doubt ii makes their own center sections...prolly get em from borg warner just like everyone else. and they prolly buy more than 3 or 4 at a time....can you imagine how little they really have in one of those $2300 silver bullets? joke.
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05-10-2009, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DTanklage
or you could give htt 700 bucks for the 13 or 16 stainless gated housing and still be saving 700 from list price
i wonder if polishing the cover is that much? (700 dollars)
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guess you would also have to get a silicon 90° boot and do some plumbing too, since no stock elbow is gonna go on that turbo
ps - highly doubt ii makes their own center sections...prolly get em from borg warner just like everyone else. and they prolly buy more than 3 or 4 at a time....can you imagine how little they really have in one of those $2300 silver bullets? joke.
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Yeah no kidding man, can you say PROFIT?! I got the plumbing covered no problem, just wanting to run another big single for now and later on get a 13ss for my 62 and build twins. Just didn't feel like shelling out $2000+ for one.
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05-11-2009, 12:13 PM
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Name: bgilbert
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Most likely they're using that center section but giving you a bolt up turbine housing and compressor cover. Then the machine work needed on the bolt up turbine housing to fit the 74mm wheel cost is added in. I'm no II fan by any means, but $900 for a center section or cartridge from the link you posted is about $300 too high. I call it a 'cartridge because you still need to source a turbine housing and comp cover for a 'neat' bolt up job:lol:. Seen the price on wastegated t3 s300 turbine housings?
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05-11-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bgilbert
Seen the price on wastegated t3 s300 turbine housings?
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just the 14?
how much?
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05-11-2009, 12:42 PM
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just the 14?
how much?
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Place I bought my 62/71, TDI in Indy, a .70 housing would be $472.50. I would guess the .80 would be the same.
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05-11-2009, 12:52 PM
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then i guess 700 for the stainless version aint that bad...
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05-11-2009, 07:49 PM
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Name: shiftycapone
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bgilbert
Most likely they're using that center section but giving you a bolt up turbine housing and compressor cover. Then the machine work needed on the bolt up turbine housing to fit the 74mm wheel cost is added in. I'm no II fan by any means, but $900 for a center section or cartridge from the link you posted is about $300 too high. I call it a 'cartridge because you still need to source a turbine housing and comp cover for a 'neat' bolt up job:lol:. Seen the price on wastegated t3 s300 turbine housings?
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A 90 degree bend, a silicone boot, and a turbine housing flange to weld onto your existing downpipe is still cheaper than a wastegated housing, and would make for a neat install. Plus if you run an external you have more tunability options
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