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11-18-2011, 08:24 PM
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Name: Jeff2
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The results are as follows peak horsepower was 831 on the stock cam due to a little blip, the horse power on the Hamilton was 815 but much smoother. The torque gain was huge 1558 to 1755. The upper end was better by 80 to 100 ft lbs. I will be leaving this one in!
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11-18-2011, 08:28 PM
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Name: YOUNG GUNS15
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16 fewer ponies and 198 more ft lbs? i'll take that.... lol
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11-18-2011, 08:29 PM
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Name: DOUBLE NICKEL
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Awesome!
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11-18-2011, 08:43 PM
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Name: Bersaglieri
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Originally Posted by YOUNG GUNS15
16 fewer ponies and 198 more ft lbs? i'll take that.... lol
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Oh yea! Any chance we can see some graphs Jeff? Possibly overlay to show area under the curve?
Seems to me area under the curve is where these things shine on the dyno.
-Dustin-
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11-18-2011, 11:12 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff2
The results are as follows peak horsepower was 831 on the stock cam due to a little blip, the horse power on the Hamilton was 815 but much smoother. The torque gain was huge 1558 to 1755. The upper end was better by 80 to 100 ft lbs. I will be leaving this one in!
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will you also be adding a tooth to the cam to see what it does?
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11-19-2011, 07:56 AM
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Name: Big Swole
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Originally Posted by 97rada
will you also be adding a tooth to the cam to see what it does?
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This was just a straight up test..
I'm more than sure Jeff / Rick will now start playing a bit...To get max benefit from it..
But that extra TQ is bad A$$!
I really really wanted to try this cam in my truck for spool and drivability... :/
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11-21-2011, 02:47 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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Heard that Jeff made a few changes and was able to get even more hp out of the Hamilton cam on Sat... I beleive it will be higher hp than the 831, yet the tq numbers stayed higher as well. ( Rick couldn't remember the exact totals )
I'll try to get pics of the graphs when I can...
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11-21-2011, 03:23 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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Couple of Sat. Runs... Hamilton cam...red line is after some fuel tweeking I beleive..
Jeffs not here and Amy and I were having to search through all the runs..
Look at the tq #'s out there at just over 3000 rpm's... Wow!
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11-21-2011, 03:26 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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11-21-2011, 03:31 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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-2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned)
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-2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins,
-2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige
-2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT
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11-21-2011, 03:32 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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If this isn't a reason to buy one of the 188/220's, I don't know what is!!
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11-21-2011, 03:37 PM
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Name: WUnderwood
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Was this done on a 12 valve David? Just curious.
Those are great, real world numbers, can't beat that at all.
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11-21-2011, 03:50 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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Yup. Jeff's 12v race truck...
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11-21-2011, 04:41 PM
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Name: HightechRedneck
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Doidge, I know your thinking the same thing i am...
Swole, I might need to talk to you too if you still have your charger set up
Jeff I need to talk to ya sometime after Thanksgiving about possibly getting something started with my ohio truck... the converter was ordered and terry is making it shortly
Just wondering when a convenient day or time to call ya is about making some future plans?
thanks again
Dustin Fletcher
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11-21-2011, 04:53 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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I still have he twins..
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-2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned)
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-2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige
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11-21-2011, 06:14 PM
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Name: Joesixpack
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Well I'm totally digging that open wedge the red line has going in the upper RPMS.
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11-22-2011, 07:30 PM
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Name: Got Smoke?
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I'll definately be purchasing a 188/220 when funds allow.
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11-22-2011, 08:29 PM
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Name: Big Swole
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Rick sent me a couple more graphs...
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-2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black
-2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic
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-2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned)
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-2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins,
-2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige
-2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT
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12-09-2011, 11:36 AM
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Name: 1939dodge
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Great info and test, I have been looking at buying a new cam. I guess the question I have is this was in his race truck, what would that do in a more tame truck? I am looking to have good towing, fuel economy and some power. So would the stage 2 or the stage 3 be better?
I will have 60# springs, 4K GSK, port matched honed exhaust, twins (stock with something like a HX60) slightly larger injectors...
Thanks in advance, sorry for a slight hyjack I am newer on this forum and it will not let me PM yeat and it seems like the people who know their stuff are here talking about the cam I am looking at.
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12-09-2011, 09:29 PM
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Name: 1939dodge
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You know best, I just figured I may as well do it now while I have the entire engine apart and on a stand. I do not have a big budget so skipping the cam would help on that.
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