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CSM diesel · 05-12-2009, 08:27 PM

Ok one more question, what does one recommend for a fluid in a Garmon transmission? ATF+4? Dextron III?

rbell · 05-12-2009, 08:33 PM

Are you just running Jeff's valve body and Daves tranny? I use Mopar ATF4, mainly just becasue I get it at cost. I've heard you can still use Dextron though. ROB

CSM diesel · 05-12-2009, 08:42 PM

Whoops! I was reading one thing and typing another... it all GARMON! I're read to use dextron III with a bottle of lubegard, or use just ATF+4....

rbell · 05-12-2009, 08:47 PM

I just feel better having ATF 4 in my DD pan. I'm not sure what the price difference is between the two, it can't be that much. You may want to send Jeff a PM to get his thoughts, he knows whats best. Let me know how the VB works out for you..ROB

rbell · 05-12-2009, 08:54 PM

Almost forgot, Valvoline also makes ATF-4. It may be a little cheaper than the factory stuff even though it's the same formula..ROB

CSM diesel · 05-15-2009, 06:12 PM

Just got the valve body in. Let me just say that it is AWESOME! Firm and quick shifts. Locks the converter nicely! Shift timing is spot on with correct band adjustment

I thought the converter was stock in this truck...... Lazy lock up. Well I removed the inspection plate to find a blue converter in there. Looks like a billet cover as well. I have no idea what this converter is.... but it couples well and locks up like a champ

Big Swole · 05-15-2009, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSM diesel

Just got the valve body in. Let me just say that it is AWESOME! Firm and quick shifts. Locks the converter nicely! Shift timing is spot on with correct band adjustment

I thought the converter was stock in this truck...... Lazy lock up. Well I removed the inspection plate to find a blue converter in there. Looks like a billet cover as well. I have no idea what this converter is.... but it couples well and locks up like a champ

When did you get the truck? Is it a recent Garmon built tranny? Cause all of Phil Taylor's (Slowpoke) new Converters from his business "Diesel Performance Converters" are MILLER LITE blue!!!!! lol

Glad you like the Garmon Valve body!!!!

CSM diesel · 05-15-2009, 06:33 PM

It is unknown what is done to the transmission. It was rebuilt at one time judging from the front band being a bronze color. I am trying to track down the previous owner to get the story on the transmission color. It is a royal blue color.

rbell · 05-15-2009, 08:15 PM

Glad you're enjoying the VB, I love mine, by far the best investment yet. Have fun with that sucker....ROB

CSM diesel · 05-15-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Swole

When did you get the truck? Is it a recent Garmon built tranny? Cause all of Phil Taylor's (Slowpoke) new Converters from his business "Diesel Performance Converters" are MILLER LITE blue!!!!! lol

Glad you like the Garmon Valve body!!!!

This is the converter in question....

rbell · 05-15-2009, 09:32 PM

Looks like a Slowpoke converter to me, I have one too. Swole will be able to tell you for sure. If it is one of his units it's the ****...... Once that baby locks it's all over.

How did the VB install go. I would imagine your still cleaning up, there is no clean way of doing one of those.

Have a great weekend man. Enjoy your VB..ROB

CSM diesel · 05-15-2009, 09:35 PM

The install took a couple hrs at the most. I have a large catch pan from the farm and home store and a drain plug in the pan.... and I used to work at a performance diesel shop in college. I can drop a pan with the best of them

rbell · 05-15-2009, 09:38 PM

Sounds good, I'm glad it went good for you. Once you do it once all is well. Now go out and beat the hell out of her, that's what Jeff told me to do with mine. ROB

CSM diesel · 07-18-2009, 10:12 PM

Just an update...

The valve body is still working great!

I have one gripe though, I was under the impression that it would lock the converter in all gears, well at least 2nd, 3rd and OD. It has the factory lock-up settings (3rd and OD.) I have a lock-up controller which allows lock-up at any speed if the valve body is set up to do so.

Is there a way to get some instructions on what needs to be done to achieve lock-up in 2nd? I assume it is a channel that needs to be opened up to allow the TC circuit to apply when in 2nd.

Big Swole · 07-19-2009, 05:33 AM

Far as I know, Garmon sets up all his VB's to lock up in 2nd....But most all his customers use a simple lockup switch tapped into the wire harness for lockup...Flip it anytime you want.... Mine will lock in 1st if I'm not carefull...Got an Intermediate shaft in two piece and a Billet Input in to pieces to prove it!!

Just call him, I'm sure he talk ya through it..

CSM diesel · 07-19-2009, 10:25 AM

Sounds good, I'll give him a call tomorrow. But it does not lock up in 2nd. I can be driving at 30mph (where the controller is set to lock the converter,) and pull it down into 2nd and the converter unlocks.

05-12-2009, 08:27 PM	#41
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	Ok one more question, what does one recommend for a fluid in a Garmon transmission? ATF+4? Dextron III? __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve Last edited by CSM diesel; 05-12-2009 at 08:41 PM. Reason: Im retarded :/

05-12-2009, 08:33 PM	#42
rbell Name: rbell Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	Are you just running Jeff's valve body and Daves tranny? I use Mopar ATF4, mainly just becasue I get it at cost. I've heard you can still use Dextron though. ROB __________________ 2005 3500 4x4, Auto meter gauges, Industrial Injection 62-74-14 & Dragon Fly 60Hp injectors, 30K PRV T&C, SMARTY TNT, AFE Stage 2, MBRP Turbo Back, Garmonized FULL BILLET TRANS

05-12-2009, 08:42 PM	#43
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	Whoops! I was reading one thing and typing another... it all GARMON! I're read to use dextron III with a bottle of lubegard, or use just ATF+4.... __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve

05-12-2009, 08:47 PM	#44
rbell Name: rbell Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	I just feel better having ATF 4 in my DD pan. I'm not sure what the price difference is between the two, it can't be that much. You may want to send Jeff a PM to get his thoughts, he knows whats best. Let me know how the VB works out for you..ROB __________________ 2005 3500 4x4, Auto meter gauges, Industrial Injection 62-74-14 & Dragon Fly 60Hp injectors, 30K PRV T&C, SMARTY TNT, AFE Stage 2, MBRP Turbo Back, Garmonized FULL BILLET TRANS

05-12-2009, 08:54 PM	#45
rbell Name: rbell Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	Almost forgot, Valvoline also makes ATF-4. It may be a little cheaper than the factory stuff even though it's the same formula..ROB __________________ 2005 3500 4x4, Auto meter gauges, Industrial Injection 62-74-14 & Dragon Fly 60Hp injectors, 30K PRV T&C, SMARTY TNT, AFE Stage 2, MBRP Turbo Back, Garmonized FULL BILLET TRANS

05-15-2009, 06:12 PM	#46
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	Just got the valve body in. Let me just say that it is AWESOME! Firm and quick shifts. Locks the converter nicely! Shift timing is spot on with correct band adjustment I thought the converter was stock in this truck...... Lazy lock up. Well I removed the inspection plate to find a blue converter in there. Looks like a billet cover as well. I have no idea what this converter is.... but it couples well and locks up like a champ __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve Last edited by CSM diesel; 05-15-2009 at 06:13 PM. Reason: spelling is not my cup of tea :/

05-15-2009, 06:33 PM	#48
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	It is unknown what is done to the transmission. It was rebuilt at one time judging from the front band being a bronze color. I am trying to track down the previous owner to get the story on the transmission color. It is a royal blue color. __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve

05-15-2009, 08:15 PM	#49
rbell Name: rbell Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	Glad you're enjoying the VB, I love mine, by far the best investment yet. Have fun with that sucker....ROB __________________ 2005 3500 4x4, Auto meter gauges, Industrial Injection 62-74-14 & Dragon Fly 60Hp injectors, 30K PRV T&C, SMARTY TNT, AFE Stage 2, MBRP Turbo Back, Garmonized FULL BILLET TRANS

05-15-2009, 09:32 PM	#51
rbell Name: rbell Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	Looks like a Slowpoke converter to me, I have one too. Swole will be able to tell you for sure. If it is one of his units it's the ****...... Once that baby locks it's all over. How did the VB install go. I would imagine your still cleaning up, there is no clean way of doing one of those. Have a great weekend man. Enjoy your VB..ROB __________________ 2005 3500 4x4, Auto meter gauges, Industrial Injection 62-74-14 & Dragon Fly 60Hp injectors, 30K PRV T&C, SMARTY TNT, AFE Stage 2, MBRP Turbo Back, Garmonized FULL BILLET TRANS

05-15-2009, 09:35 PM	#52
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	The install took a couple hrs at the most. I have a large catch pan from the farm and home store and a drain plug in the pan.... and I used to work at a performance diesel shop in college. I can drop a pan with the best of them __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve

05-15-2009, 09:38 PM	#53
rbell Name: rbell Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	Sounds good, I'm glad it went good for you. Once you do it once all is well. Now go out and beat the hell out of her, that's what Jeff told me to do with mine. ROB __________________ 2005 3500 4x4, Auto meter gauges, Industrial Injection 62-74-14 & Dragon Fly 60Hp injectors, 30K PRV T&C, SMARTY TNT, AFE Stage 2, MBRP Turbo Back, Garmonized FULL BILLET TRANS

07-18-2009, 10:12 PM	#54
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	Just an update... The valve body is still working great! I have one gripe though, I was under the impression that it would lock the converter in all gears, well at least 2nd, 3rd and OD. It has the factory lock-up settings (3rd and OD.) I have a lock-up controller which allows lock-up at any speed if the valve body is set up to do so. Is there a way to get some instructions on what needs to be done to achieve lock-up in 2nd? I assume it is a channel that needs to be opened up to allow the TC circuit to apply when in 2nd. __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve

07-19-2009, 05:33 AM	#55
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Far as I know, Garmon sets up all his VB's to lock up in 2nd....But most all his customers use a simple lockup switch tapped into the wire harness for lockup...Flip it anytime you want.... Mine will lock in 1st if I'm not carefull...Got an Intermediate shaft in two piece and a Billet Input in to pieces to prove it!! Just call him, I'm sure he talk ya through it.. __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

07-19-2009, 10:25 AM	#56
CSM diesel Name: CSM diesel Title: Engineer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Golden, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 479	Sounds good, I'll give him a call tomorrow. But it does not lock up in 2nd. I can be driving at 30mph (where the controller is set to lock the converter,) and pull it down into 2nd and the converter unlocks. __________________ 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 12 valve