Advertisement
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Home Who's Online Today's Posts HP Calculator CompD Gift Shop Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together > Tech Area- Dodge > Dodge Tech > 03-07 3rd Gen.
Register Members List Timeslips EFI Live Library Invite Your Friends FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-10-2017, 11:12 AM   #1
SixOhh
 
SixOhh's Avatar

Name: SixOhh
Title: EPA unfriendly
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,108
Time to throw out the s467.7 turbo choices?

i'm about to get rid of my s467.7 .9ar (race cover) and i am torn on where to go from here. Technology has changed a lot in the 6 ish years ive ran this single.

my biggest complaint has always been spool up but i have always slightly blamed that on my converter (15 blade left cut).

either way, i have been recommended swapping to either a 476ETR 87-.90 or a 468/87-.90 v band .63ar.

This being a DD i am more concerned with spool up that total RWHP but id like to think i can get an additional 100 rwhp and better spool up at the same time with a more modern turbo. if im around 800-850 rwhp ill be fine with that. i am obviously on a 2nd gen setup with a stainless manifold.

i am open to other options and suggestions, its hard to keep up with turbo tech these days.

it will be on my 60% 0vers for now till they show some wear and tear then ill go to 120's.

are there any sound clips of the ETR style wheel i can listen to? i hear it sounds pretty unique.
__________________
07' Silver 2500 5.9 4x4 LWB
Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road

Last edited by SixOhh; 12-10-2017 at 11:18 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 12:33 PM   #2
Poulina
 
Poulina's Avatar

Name: Poulina
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Norcal
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 795
I’ve had Jose’s 76gngsta wheel and a cast wheel 67.7 back to back, both non racecover. Both on the sxe 87 turbine & .90 housing. I don’t think the newer sxe turbines are much different, if at all? Either way, I much prefer a compressor inducer size of 70mm or less. Makes me wish I never got rid of my gtx4294

If it means anything, Jose has my current turbo (cast 67.7/87) to get his version of the same sized wheel. I also have to be very mindful of smoke where I live, sf bay area. Most of the usable power there is with a single is made where the 67.7 lives, hence why it’s so popular. I’m drinking the kool aid fursure.
__________________
2008 QCLB 6.8 48re Suncoast PCS, DDP supermentals, forcedinductions 467/87, Hamilton 188/220, Carrillos, studded mains w/stock girdle
 
Old 12-10-2017, 04:31 PM   #3
Smokem
 
Smokem's Avatar

Name: Smokem
Title: Turbler
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Iowa
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poulina View Post
Both on the sxe 87 turbine & .90 housing. I don’t think the newer sxe turbines are much different, if at all?
The turbine used in the SX-E is not a new turbine, but simply the 82/92mm turbine with the inducer reduced to 87mm. It is the same turbine design as the 74/83mm and if lag is a concern and the compressor is 72mm or smaller there is no reason to use the larger turbine wheel.
__________________
Infinite Performance
 
Old 12-10-2017, 05:18 PM   #4
Lodge125
 
Lodge125's Avatar

Name: Lodge125
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: south dakota
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 151
I LOVE my 76 and I daily my pickup back and forth between south Dakota and north Dakota. F.I. S476/87 1.0 with DDP 100% overs and just a slight haze going down the highway thanks to les's tunes. I have a 2000 stall coverter that I'm thinking about restalling to 2400-2500 to help with spooling on the line but man is it loud!! Dont mind my info in my sig either as it isn't up to date.
2006 ccsb 5.9
.040 slugs
Stock bottom 10mm top pump
100% over ddp injectors
F.I. S476/87 1.0 t4
Silver bullet tunes
HTS full race trans 2000 stall suncoast triple disc
Fass 260
...........and other stuff
I will put up a video of it if I can figure out how to load it off my phone

Sent from my SM-S906L using Tapatalk
__________________
2006 ccsb | .20 fire ringed block | arp 625s | Hamilton springs & pushrods | ppe dual pumps | DTT assassin | flux 6.2s | 188/210 cam | s475 | efi live tunes from Gordon | HTS race trans
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:27 PM   #5
Green2015

Name: Green2015
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2015
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 379
Garrett seems to make the fastest spooling chargers compared to similar size chargers and flow more air on similar size ones also. Not cheap but nice pieces.
 
Old 12-11-2017, 09:01 AM   #6
RyanMayo
 
RyanMayo's Avatar

Name: RyanMayo
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 348
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poulina View Post
I’ve had Jose’s 76gngsta wheel and a cast wheel 67.7 back to back, both non racecover. Both on the sxe 87 turbine & .90 housing. I don’t think the newer sxe turbines are much different, if at all? Either way, I much prefer a compressor inducer size of 70mm or less. Makes me wish I never got rid of my gtx4294

If it means anything, Jose has my current turbo (cast 67.7/87) to get his version of the same sized wheel. I also have to be very mindful of smoke where I live, sf bay area. Most of the usable power there is with a single is made where the 67.7 lives, hence why it’s so popular. I’m drinking the kool aid fursure.
What does Jose say the power potential is with the billet wheel?
__________________
2004 Ram 2500 qcsb
64/71/14, 100 hp nozzles, smarty, billet trans
 
Old 12-11-2017, 05:44 PM   #7
Howling
 
Howling's Avatar

Name: Howling
Title: Soot Sniffer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern,IL
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixOhh View Post
i'm about to get rid of my s467.7 .9ar (race cover) and i am torn on where to go from here. Technology has changed a lot in the 6 ish years ive ran this single.

my biggest complaint has always been spool up but i have always slightly blamed that on my converter (15 blade left cut).

either way, i have been recommended swapping to either a 476ETR 87-.90 or a 468/87-.90 v band .63ar.

This being a DD i am more concerned with spool up that total RWHP but id like to think i can get an additional 100 rwhp and better spool up at the same time with a more modern turbo. if im around 800-850 rwhp ill be fine with that. i am obviously on a 2nd gen setup with a stainless manifold.

i am open to other options and suggestions, its hard to keep up with turbo tech these days.

it will be on my 60% 0vers for now till they show some wear and tear then ill go to 120's.

are there any sound clips of the ETR style wheel i can listen to? i hear it sounds pretty unique.
I feel the same way about the technology part. Been running the same 75/83/90 for 8 years.(I had to think about that damn that's a long time but hardly any miles)

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
__________________
Eric

2006 Dodge CTD/48re 4x4 Sport
With some fuel and air.
Bullseye,Hamilton,Exergy,EFI,ATS,FASS,HTS,Thuren, Toyo's...

1996 2500 RC 4x4 CTD-63/68/.83,5X.014,180 maxed Ppump,Fass...
 
Old 12-11-2017, 07:02 PM   #8
ramthiscummins

Name: ramthiscummins
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada EH!
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 589
I am in the same boat, debating whether to run my 467 / 83 / 90 on my new truck or run a 472, 476 or garrett gt4202 or other garrett turbo. Hmmm...

If lag is at all a concern it will only be worse going to a larger turbo. I am not sure if that will be very enjoyable on my mega cab which is why I am hesitant.
__________________
2003 QCSB cummins, DDP 12mm CP3, DDP SM 150% overs, a turbo, Firepunk diesel 48re

Last edited by ramthiscummins; 12-11-2017 at 07:03 PM.
 
Old 12-12-2017, 08:19 AM   #9
SixOhh
 
SixOhh's Avatar

Name: SixOhh
Title: EPA unfriendly
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodge125 View Post
I LOVE my 76 and I daily my pickup back and forth between south Dakota and north Dakota. F.I. S476/87 1.0 with DDP 100% overs and just a slight haze going down the highway thanks to les's tunes.
funny you should mention him. Les texted me and suggested the S369 SX-E... bigger compressor, smaller turbine and a small shaft and will support 800+ to the ground.
__________________
07' Silver 2500 5.9 4x4 LWB
Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road

Last edited by SixOhh; 12-12-2017 at 08:30 AM.
 
Old 12-12-2017, 08:28 AM   #10
SixOhh
 
SixOhh's Avatar

Name: SixOhh
Title: EPA unfriendly
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodge125 View Post
I LOVE my 76 and I daily my pickup back and forth between south Dakota and north Dakota. F.I. S476/87 1.0 with DDP 100% overs and just a slight haze going down the highway thanks to les's tunes. I have a 2000 stall coverter that I'm thinking about restalling to 2400-2500 to help with spooling on the line but man is it loud!! Dont mind my info in my sig either as it isn't up to date.
2006 ccsb 5.9
.040 slugs
Stock bottom 10mm top pump
100% over ddp injectors
F.I. S476/87 1.0 t4
Silver bullet tunes
HTS full race trans 2000 stall suncoast triple disc
Fass 260
...........and other stuff
I will put up a video of it if I can figure out how to load it off my phone

Sent from my SM-S906L using Tapatalk
I read good things about F.I. ive never ran their stuff, id love to hear it.
__________________
07' Silver 2500 5.9 4x4 LWB
Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
 
Old 12-13-2017, 03:54 PM   #11
SixOhh
 
SixOhh's Avatar

Name: SixOhh
Title: EPA unfriendly
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,108
i am open to any suggestions/ opinions
__________________
07' Silver 2500 5.9 4x4 LWB
Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
 
Old 12-13-2017, 04:22 PM   #12
Justappumped24v
 
Justappumped24v's Avatar

Name: Justappumped24v
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Illinois
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,311
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixOhh View Post
funny you should mention him. Les texted me and suggested the S369 SX-E... bigger compressor, smaller turbine and a small shaft and will support 800+ to the ground.
I ran a 7.4 1/8th mile in a 06 megacab 5.9 at 8080 Lbs with a 369sxe which is over 900 to the ground. Biggest issue with the 369 is drive pressure gets out of hand quick at the top of the map
__________________
05 QCSB24v HTD 6.8L, DDP fueling PDD shifted
2011 MCSB 6.7, built 68rfe
 
Old 12-13-2017, 05:39 PM   #13
jasonc

Name: jasonc
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2009
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,395
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justappumped24v View Post
I ran a 7.4 1/8th mile in a 06 megacab 5.9 at 8080 Lbs with a 369sxe which is over 900 to the ground. Biggest issue with the 369 is drive pressure gets out of hand quick at the top of the map
Were you running the t4 .91 housing?
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:21 PM   #14
Justappumped24v
 
Justappumped24v's Avatar

Name: Justappumped24v
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Illinois
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,311
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonc View Post
Were you running the t4 .91 housing?
Yes .91 T4 ungated
__________________
05 QCSB24v HTD 6.8L, DDP fueling PDD shifted
2011 MCSB 6.7, built 68rfe
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:22 PM   #15
Justappumped24v
 
Justappumped24v's Avatar

Name: Justappumped24v
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Illinois
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,311
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmega3500 View Post
Well the fact you ran that is impressive, but definitely outside the functional rand of the 69sxe.
Definitely outside of the map 100%
__________________
05 QCSB24v HTD 6.8L, DDP fueling PDD shifted
2011 MCSB 6.7, built 68rfe
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:25 PM   #16
Justappumped24v
 
Justappumped24v's Avatar

Name: Justappumped24v
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Illinois
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,311
Click the image to open in full size.Click the image to open in full size.Click the image to open in full size.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
05 QCSB24v HTD 6.8L, DDP fueling PDD shifted
2011 MCSB 6.7, built 68rfe
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:26 PM   #17
Justappumped24v
 
Justappumped24v's Avatar

Name: Justappumped24v
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Illinois
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,311
On that pass I bent the center link on launch so I may have had a little more in it, definitely was not a straight pass
__________________
05 QCSB24v HTD 6.8L, DDP fueling PDD shifted
2011 MCSB 6.7, built 68rfe
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:28 PM   #18
jasonc

Name: jasonc
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2009
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,395
Just adding an ext gate would of made that a good combo, as I'm sure you know.
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:32 PM   #19
Justappumped24v
 
Justappumped24v's Avatar

Name: Justappumped24v
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Illinois
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,311
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonc View Post
Just adding an ext gate would of made that a good combo, as I'm sure you know.
For sure, just had to let the truck go, too much money needed for the new Truck.
__________________
05 QCSB24v HTD 6.8L, DDP fueling PDD shifted
2011 MCSB 6.7, built 68rfe
 
Old 12-13-2017, 06:40 PM   #20
jasonc

Name: jasonc
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2009
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,395
The only choice for what the op is after being he mentioned quicker spool in a way, and flow more on comp side would be the 369. I'd be curious though on what the 467.7 and 369 would do on a straight up strung out dyno test.
 
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55 AM.

 


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2024, CompetitionDiesel.com
all information found on this site is property of www.competitiondiesel.com