Think i broke a billet input - Competition Diesel.Com

2004cuminz · 11-09-2019, 08:56 PM

Got on my truck today started spinning at about 50 then heard a noise and tranny has nothing but park. Thinking my input shaft broke. How bad does it tear up other stuff if thats what it is. What else could it be if not input?

Empty_Pockets · 11-09-2019, 09:37 PM

Probabaly going to need to have the converter gone through, maybe the pump, 3rd/4th drum, all depends on how bad it broke i suppose. If it is the input, id throw the santjer solid billet input in it.

2004cuminz · 11-09-2019, 11:23 PM

I thought about the santjer but trucks probably gonna sit for a while cuz my wallet wasnt ready for this.

PRINCETON_JAKE · 11-10-2019, 07:45 AM

What intermediate shaft? I’ve broke several of those the same way you described

xDiesel03 · 11-10-2019, 11:33 AM

I broke a TCS Magnum input shaft this time last year and it was a MUCH louder and feelable pop than when I broke a TCS maraging intermediate this summer. Yours sounds more like the intermediate and if it was the intermediate damage depends on where it broke. If it broke up high then you might only have the cost of a new shaft to deal with, but if not the cost could be much more. Did it break when OD engaged? The intermediate receives the highest stress when in lockup and OD engages.

2004cuminz · 11-10-2019, 02:53 PM

Its a special intermediate firepunk sold me it had like a scribe in it so if it breaks it breaks there clean so it doesnt tear anithing up

2004cuminz · 11-10-2019, 02:55 PM

Lol yes it broke right as it shifted into od and i had lockup switch on.

Empty_Pockets · 11-10-2019, 05:06 PM

I agree sounds like intermediate with how it happened and what you described now. Start tearing it apart pitter patter

2004cuminz · 11-11-2019, 12:15 AM

Got tranny out it was the input shaft broke just past the stator other half is stuck in the torque convertor. Hope it didnt mess up anything inside the trans.fml ill be down for a bit. I doubt dpc will cover something like this for my tc

YoungDiesel27 · 11-11-2019, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2004cuminz

Got tranny out it was the input shaft broke just past the stator other half is stuck in the torque convertor. Hope it didnt mess up anything inside the trans.fml ill be down for a bit. I doubt dpc will cover something like this for my tc

Why would it be the converter shops place to cover your negligence that was the result of having fun. Sucks, but pay to play.

Empty_Pockets · 11-11-2019, 07:37 AM

I think he said that cause dpc has a lifetime warranty.

2004cuminz · 11-11-2019, 08:43 AM

Yes it is a lifetime warranty. Didnt say it was there fault thats it.

YoungDiesel27 · 11-11-2019, 11:15 AM

Phil is great, I’m sure he will treat you right

kole32 · 11-11-2019, 02:37 PM

Also be a really good idea to go through the valvebody and have it cleaned. First place small fragments for from a broken input is the valvebody.

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SPEEDSHIFT · 11-11-2019, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kole32

Also be a really good idea to go through the valvebody and have it cleaned. First place small fragments for from a broken input is the valvebody.

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This.

2004cuminz · 11-11-2019, 03:52 PM

Yes transmission will be gone through is. there a better input shaft than a tcs arizona that i wont have to buy a whole new tc

2004cuminz · 11-12-2019, 04:55 PM

Thinking about going with a magnum shaft i just cant afford a santjer right now

thatguy69 · 11-12-2019, 10:33 PM

Who makes the magnum shaft?

Empty_Pockets · 11-12-2019, 11:27 PM

Tcs 27 spline correct? Pretty sure thats what lavon ran in the quad cab for a long time.

2004cuminz · 11-13-2019, 06:54 PM

Yes tcs 27 spline.

11-09-2019, 08:56 PM	#1
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Think i broke a billet input Got on my truck today started spinning at about 50 then heard a noise and tranny has nothing but park. Thinking my input shaft broke. How bad does it tear up other stuff if thats what it is. What else could it be if not input? __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-09-2019, 09:37 PM	#2
Empty_Pockets Name: Empty_Pockets Title: Undercover Epa agent Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Va wv line Member`s Gallery Posts: 870	Probabaly going to need to have the converter gone through, maybe the pump, 3rd/4th drum, all depends on how bad it broke i suppose. If it is the input, id throw the santjer solid billet input in it. __________________ NIC R Too many trucks

11-09-2019, 11:23 PM	#3
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	I thought about the santjer but trucks probably gonna sit for a while cuz my wallet wasnt ready for this. __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-10-2019, 07:45 AM	#4
PRINCETON_JAKE Name: PRINCETON_JAKE Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Princeton Minnesota Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,125	What intermediate shaft? I’ve broke several of those the same way you described __________________ silver 2006 ram 2500 4x4, crew cab short box, 48RE auto with "stuff" done, 5.9 with more "stuff" done

11-10-2019, 11:33 AM	#5
xDiesel03 Name: xDiesel03 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	I broke a TCS Magnum input shaft this time last year and it was a MUCH louder and feelable pop than when I broke a TCS maraging intermediate this summer. Yours sounds more like the intermediate and if it was the intermediate damage depends on where it broke. If it broke up high then you might only have the cost of a new shaft to deal with, but if not the cost could be much more. Did it break when OD engaged? The intermediate receives the highest stress when in lockup and OD engages. __________________ 2003 2500 QCSB 4x4 3.73 - Firepunk HPT Tuned, BBI Stage 2's, DAP 63/68/12, Hamilton [624/1050 and 680/1206 with Water/Meth] 2012 2500 CCSB 4x4 3.73 Firepunk EFI and Comp3, D&J Built 6.7L, S&S 200%, ATS Dual CP3 w/ Exergy 12mm, S366/S483 Compounds [1086/2289]

11-10-2019, 02:53 PM	#6
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Its a special intermediate firepunk sold me it had like a scribe in it so if it breaks it breaks there clean so it doesnt tear anithing up __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-10-2019, 02:55 PM	#7
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Lol yes it broke right as it shifted into od and i had lockup switch on. __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-10-2019, 05:06 PM	#8
Empty_Pockets Name: Empty_Pockets Title: Undercover Epa agent Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Va wv line Member`s Gallery Posts: 870	I agree sounds like intermediate with how it happened and what you described now. Start tearing it apart pitter patter __________________ NIC R Too many trucks

11-11-2019, 12:15 AM	#9
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Got tranny out it was the input shaft broke just past the stator other half is stuck in the torque convertor. Hope it didnt mess up anything inside the trans.fml ill be down for a bit. I doubt dpc will cover something like this for my tc __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-11-2019, 07:37 AM	#11
Empty_Pockets Name: Empty_Pockets Title: Undercover Epa agent Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Va wv line Member`s Gallery Posts: 870	I think he said that cause dpc has a lifetime warranty. __________________ NIC R Too many trucks

11-11-2019, 08:43 AM	#12
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Yes it is a lifetime warranty. Didnt say it was there fault thats it. __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-11-2019, 11:15 AM	#13
YoungDiesel27 Name: YoungDiesel27 Title: Never Enough Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West Virginia Member`s Gallery Posts: 825	Phil is great, I’m sure he will treat you right __________________ EFI Live, HP Tuners, Smarty custom tuning

11-11-2019, 02:37 PM	#14
kole32 Name: kole32 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Knox, IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 569	Also be a really good idea to go through the valvebody and have it cleaned. First place small fragments for from a broken input is the valvebody. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 1993 w250, 215hp pump benched by Seth. 5ks. Hamilton valve springs, colt 181/218 cam, fire ringed head. Airdog 150 at 45psi torktek ofv 6x16 injectors, timing is roughly 30*. S366 soon to have a s475 with it.

11-11-2019, 03:52 PM	#16
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Yes transmission will be gone through is. there a better input shaft than a tcs arizona that i wont have to buy a whole new tc __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-12-2019, 04:55 PM	#17
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Thinking about going with a magnum shaft i just cant afford a santjer right now __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.

11-12-2019, 10:33 PM	#18
thatguy69 Name: thatguy69 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mansfield Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,023	Who makes the magnum shaft? __________________ 1999 Compound 24v Rust Rocket 2008 F350 P24v/Allison

11-12-2019, 11:27 PM	#19
Empty_Pockets Name: Empty_Pockets Title: Undercover Epa agent Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Va wv line Member`s Gallery Posts: 870	Tcs 27 spline correct? Pretty sure thats what lavon ran in the quad cab for a long time. __________________ NIC R Too many trucks

11-13-2019, 06:54 PM	#20
2004cuminz Name: 2004cuminz Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2018 Member`s Gallery Posts: 165	Yes tcs 27 spline. __________________ 2004.5 quad cab sb. Ppe dual fueler kit,170% over ii injectors,68/68 tatorbuilt turbo.homemade 5in cold air intake, 150psi map sensor, headstuds,pushrods and valvesprings.