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Old 01-02-2018, 07:27 AM   #14901
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That's sweet! The mirrors even fold in.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:57 AM   #14902
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Yay!!! Gelled up trucks.


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Old 01-02-2018, 10:10 AM   #14903
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:23 AM   #14904
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Pluck yes. Iíve had or had possession of a diesel full time since I was 17 years old, ever had one gel. I started mine this morning idled it up, and went back home. It ran for an hour and a half probably. Didnít make it out of town and I looked over and the pressure was dropping and boom.
Iím still sitting here getting it to thaw out. Great day in the neighborhood. It had to of been the lines. Filters werenít froze, tanks werenít froze.


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Old 01-02-2018, 11:07 AM   #14905
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Pluck yes. Iíve had or had possession of a diesel full time since I was 17 years old, ever had one gel. I started mine this morning idled it up, and went back home. It ran for an hour and a half probably. Didnít make it out of town and I looked over and the pressure was dropping and boom.
Iím still sitting here getting it to thaw out. Great day in the neighborhood. It had to of been the lines. Filters werenít froze, tanks werenít froze.


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What temperature? Do you treat the fuel?

It is such a helpless feeling, especially if you've been so long and never had it happen. My pickup gelled once. I let it warm up for about 10 minutes in the driveway and made it about 10 miles down the road before it quit. Never made sense to me. Always ran treatment, too.
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:18 AM   #14906
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Itís been cold for here the past couple days with it sitting. My stupid arse did not treat the fuel Friday before I got home when I fueled up. I ran it Saturday and itís been parked since then.
This morning it was 7 degrees out. Idk why I didnít treat it.
On the road when it gets cold at all I always treat no matter what what. This time I didnít.

On a side note, does anyone in here know anything about reefer trailers?


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Old 01-02-2018, 12:54 PM   #14907
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Got down to -12 at my place.. filled up last night, block heater is grounded out and needs replaced...
I stuck some plywood in the front covering half the cooling stack and bumped idle to 850-900 let it idle all night

If it did tell.. it wasn't enough to stop the lift pump from sucking it out the tank and through the pump
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:19 PM   #14908
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Pluck yes. Iíve had or had possession of a diesel full time since I was 17 years old, ever had one gel. I started mine this morning idled it up, and went back home. It ran for an hour and a half probably. Didnít make it out of town and I looked over and the pressure was dropping and boom.
Iím still sitting here getting it to thaw out. Great day in the neighborhood. It had to of been the lines. Filters werenít froze, tanks werenít froze.


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That's usually water/ice
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:09 PM   #14909
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Up here in Canada we run straight #1 from about November into March. Don't be scared to run it. It's only 4% less BTUs. Straight #1 should be good to the -35 range. Don't believe the marketing of the additives. I used to park my truck outside in -30 and never added anything because I was running good fuel.

If an engine is really "gelled" it will never start in the first place. Gelling is a bad term really. There's three issues:

1) Wax dropout. Happens before gelling, the fuel gets cloudy and the wax particles drop out of the fuel and plug the filter. Chuck in some additive, change the filter, and pray.

2) Fuel gelling. It turns solid or near solid. The pump cannot move the fuel. You need a tow truck at this point, but most trucks are looooooooooong dead before this happens.

3) Water/ice. If the fuel is clear this is likely your issue. Ice can pile up in fittings. The best way to get rid of it is to manually remove it. Most filters have a drain. I drain my tanks a little bit every fall. One of the most common issues on a newer style dual return fuel system is one tank is more full than the other. Usually thats ice buildup in the T fittings. Some additives can help get rid of water by dispersing it, but alcohol floats on top of diesel while water is heavier.

A note about the red bottle diesel 911. I've seen guys use this stuff as a regular additive. Don't do that. It is extremely harsh on humans and engines. I carry a bottle in case of emergency, if I open it the whole bottle goes in and gets thrown out.

Heated fuel filters (davco 382) are great but aren't the answer to bad fuel. Guys use to run those arctic fox heaters up here and they fell out of favor. One breakdown can completely wipe out your savings of running cheaper fuel.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:26 PM   #14910
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Well here we go.

I use gelling as a relaxed term... I assumed it was water/bad fuel being as the tank nor filter was solid.

They donít offer #1 where Iím from.

I donít, nor would I ever use 911 as an additive.


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Old 01-02-2018, 04:55 PM   #14911
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Well here we go.

I use gelling as a relaxed term... I assumed it was water/bad fuel being as the tank nor filter was solid.

They donít offer #1 where Iím from.

I donít, nor would I ever use 911 as an additive.


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Good assumption. I've seen guys do research on additives improving cold flow but not additive effects on water and ice.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:57 PM   #14912
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Good assumption. I've seen guys do research on additives improving cold flow but not additive effects on water and ice.


I run additive year round. Tanks get some every fill up. And my drivers are supplied with it to put in the tanks as well. My trucks also get parked in warm shop which would make for condensation in tanks. Knock on wood no issues. Once truck is running for a bit even running -25 the fuel tanks can get warm from return fuel.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:46 PM   #14913
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I run the power service white in the winter and silver in the summer. I've never had a problem since I started running the white, used to get shut down once or twice a year. A couple times getting an electronic cat reprimed on the side of the road when it's -20 made me decide that the power service isn't that expensive. The B wasn't a big deal, just swap the filter and keep going.

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Old 01-03-2018, 12:16 AM   #14914
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Seems like fuel over there is even crappier than in Russia. In the 90s it was a big problem but lately it has been quite good if bought from big name service stations.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:33 AM   #14915
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I run additive year round. Tanks get some every fill up. And my drivers are supplied with it to put in the tanks as well. My trucks also get parked in warm shop which would make for condensation in tanks. Knock on wood no issues. Once truck is running for a bit even running -25 the fuel tanks can get warm from return fuel.

If the tanks are full there shouldn't be issues. The only condensation issues I've had are running home when its really warm and raining, then you get a below freezing cold snap. You're sucking in 10 GPH of atmosphere while going down the road at 6 MPG.

Then you fill up, this stuff loosens up, and you're in ****.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:43 AM   #14916
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Seems like fuel over there is even crappier than in Russia. In the 90s it was a big problem but lately it has been quite good if bought from big name service stations.
A lot of it is water issues and sometimes it doesn't come out of the pump. Canada has good quality winterized fuel. Northern states you have a choice between #1 and #2 "winter treated" pumps. Problem is you don't know how it's treated. You can have a variation state to state.

The other issue is biodiesel which is terrible for winter performance. Minnesota had trucks breaking down everywhere a few years ago when they adopted it.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:02 AM   #14917
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As far as the batteries here's my take on it:

Unless you're going AGM, go with lower CCA starting/deep cycle batteries

I've had good luck with the Cat 825 CCA batteries because the plates aren't as thin as on other batteries. They're also predictable, they don't short out and give off that sulfur smell. They just slowly get weaker and weaker and you have more than enough warning as to when to replace. Up here they have a full 3 year replacement warranty.

I'm pretty damn hard on batteries. Fridge runs all the time. I run an espar bunk/engine heating combo and don't idle my truck until it hits -25C. It's also pretty damn cold up here in case you haven't heard.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:46 AM   #14918
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As far as the batteries here's my take on it:

Unless you're going AGM, go with lower CCA starting/deep cycle batteries

I've had good luck with the Cat 825 CCA batteries because the plates aren't as thin as on other batteries. They're also predictable, they don't short out and give off that sulfur smell. They just slowly get weaker and weaker and you have more than enough warning as to when to replace. Up here they have a full 3 year replacement warranty.

I'm pretty damn hard on batteries. Fridge runs all the time. I run an espar bunk/engine heating combo and don't idle my truck until it hits -25C. It's also pretty damn cold up here in case you haven't heard.
I might swap over to AGM at a later date..

I know frieghtliner has gone from 1900cca to 2850cca for the ISL9..
I Currently at 2300cca with two 1150cca soon will be bumping to 3..

I take it you have at least 4 825? To start and run the Espar or you got a couple additional separate from. The cranking ones?
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I might swap over to AGM at a later date..

I know frieghtliner has gone from 1900cca to 2850cca for the ISL9..
I Currently at 2300cca with two 1150cca soon will be bumping to 3..

I take it you have at least 4 825? To start and run the Espar or you got a couple additional separate from. The cranking ones?
4 x 825 CCA yes, nothing separate. I run 5w30 oil and don't have issues with pressure in the morning.

My dad runs regular old 15w40 rotella and NO engine heater of any kind. He shuts his truck off most of the time. Those damn Volvo engines are UNREAL in the winter.
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4 x 825 CCA yes, nothing separate. I run 5w30 oil and don't have issues with pressure in the morning.

My dad runs regular old 15w40 rotella and NO engine heater of any kind. He shuts his truck off most of the time. Those damn Volvo engines are UNREAL in the winter.
Modern high compression engines start easily if fuel is flowing through filters, no pre-heating needed.
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