05 CR Crank no start, No Gauges, No OBDII Communication - Competition Diesel.Com

*dzlfarmboy* · 08-30-2012, 08:11 AM

Hey guys having a hard time figuring out an electrical issue with a truck. Swapped a trans in it cleared a map sensor code test drove the truck about 5 miles came back and shut the truck off and now it will not start. Volts,fuel,oil,coolant gauges dont move on key on. I do see the tach needle move slightly. Truck has a bullydog outlook monitor and a power pup that was returned to stock before I got the truck. But the Outlook needs to stay plugged in for it to start so the guy says.

Crank no start
No gauges move on key on power but the tach.
No tach RPM during cranking
No lift pump running on key on
All gauges sweep during key test.
Checked all fuses, relays
Have 12v at the ECM during key on
Scanner will not connect with truck, but the Outlook/Smarty will power on.

Not sure if it's something with the Outlook monitor or the ECM.

I have read in a few threads of the same thing happening but there's never any answers to the problems at the end.

Any info or thoughts on this would be much appreciated.

Thanks Brett

CSnyder · 08-30-2012, 08:31 AM

recheck your plugs at the rear of the engine going to the trans. Most likely one has a bad connection. Ive had the same issues in the past.

*LAmiller* · 08-30-2012, 09:01 AM

Also check the ecm ground wire, had an 06 with similar symptoms.

Lavon

*dzlfarmboy* · 08-31-2012, 06:29 AM

Checked all that stuff, unplugged sensors one by one in the bus system seeing if it would connect and still nothing. This thing is whipping my a$$

*LAmiller* · 08-31-2012, 07:03 AM

Is the ecm getting power? Is there 5v going to the sensors with the key on?

jkretzer · 08-31-2012, 09:04 AM

brett, bet the ecm is fried, now got to find what is causing it to fry. got same problem older truck, still trying to find it. my pcm was, sent it off, tested and rebuilt. keep posting what you find.

*dzlfarmboy* · 09-07-2012, 02:00 PM

The other day I tried starting it for the hell of it and the batterys went really weak so I threw the charger on it for a bit and keyed it back on and the volts & Fuel level gauges came up and it started. Shut it of and restarted once. Took the charger off it shut it off and now its the same thing nothing. But before it had plenty of cranking juice.

Astaindsoul5446 · 09-07-2012, 02:13 PM

Alternator shorting out?

SPEEDSHIFT · 09-07-2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSnyder

recheck your plugs at the rear of the engine going to the trans. Most likely one has a bad connection. Ive had the same issues in the past.

x2..

06 DIESEL · 09-07-2012, 02:52 PM

Had a similar issue with mine years ago, had a negative battery terminal that was not making a connection. Tightened all battery connections and no issues since.

dangerous06 · 09-07-2012, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06 DIESEL

Had a similar issue with mine years ago, had a negative battery terminal that was not making a connection. Tightened all battery connections and no issues since.

X2!!! Load test batteries and clean all the terminals!

*dzlfarmboy* · 09-13-2012, 09:00 AM

Funny I already removed all the cables and cleaned them and reinstalled after it wouldnt start as they were very loose on the post. So I just rechecked them 2 days ago with a 1/2" wrench and snugged them up again. Keyed on gauges came up and it started and has been fine starting and driving it multiple times since then. Always something stupid with electronics.

08-30-2012, 08:11 AM	#1
dzlfarmboy Name: dzlfarmboy Title: Supporting Vendor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,448	05 CR Crank no start, No Gauges, No OBDII Communication Hey guys having a hard time figuring out an electrical issue with a truck. Swapped a trans in it cleared a map sensor code test drove the truck about 5 miles came back and shut the truck off and now it will not start. Volts,fuel,oil,coolant gauges dont move on key on. I do see the tach needle move slightly. Truck has a bullydog outlook monitor and a power pup that was returned to stock before I got the truck. But the Outlook needs to stay plugged in for it to start so the guy says. Crank no start No gauges move on key on power but the tach. No tach RPM during cranking No lift pump running on key on All gauges sweep during key test. Checked all fuses, relays Have 12v at the ECM during key on Scanner will not connect with truck, but the Outlook/Smarty will power on. Not sure if it's something with the Outlook monitor or the ECM. I have read in a few threads of the same thing happening but there's never any answers to the problems at the end. Any info or thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Thanks Brett __________________ *F1 Diesel,HTT,Goerend Trans,410-490-6075*

08-30-2012, 08:31 AM	#2
CSnyder Name: CSnyder Title: Snyder-Motorsports Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,278	recheck your plugs at the rear of the engine going to the trans. Most likely one has a bad connection. Ive had the same issues in the past. __________________ Alot of my life is easier thanks to Mumau Diesel! and Goerend Transmission There is a HUGE difference between cocky and confident when it comes to engine building.

08-30-2012, 09:01 AM	#3
LAmiller Name: LAmiller Title: THE KT-BOUNDARY Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Plain City, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,603	Also check the ecm ground wire, had an 06 with similar symptoms. Lavon __________________ 04.5 QDLB 4x4 Diesel Power Challenge 2014/2015 Champion, ODSS 6.70 Points Champion 2015/2016 06 RaceCab 4x4 Ulimate Callout Challenge 2016, 2017, 2018 Champion, ODSS Pro Street Points Champion 2016 2016 QDLB 4x4, Firepunk EZLynk. http://www.shop.firepunk.com

08-31-2012, 06:29 AM	#4
dzlfarmboy Name: dzlfarmboy Title: Supporting Vendor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,448	Checked all that stuff, unplugged sensors one by one in the bus system seeing if it would connect and still nothing. This thing is whipping my a$$ __________________ *F1 Diesel,HTT,Goerend Trans,410-490-6075*

08-31-2012, 07:03 AM	#5
LAmiller Name: LAmiller Title: THE KT-BOUNDARY Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Plain City, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,603	Is the ecm getting power? Is there 5v going to the sensors with the key on? __________________ 04.5 QDLB 4x4 Diesel Power Challenge 2014/2015 Champion, ODSS 6.70 Points Champion 2015/2016 06 RaceCab 4x4 Ulimate Callout Challenge 2016, 2017, 2018 Champion, ODSS Pro Street Points Champion 2016 2016 QDLB 4x4, Firepunk EZLynk. http://www.shop.firepunk.com

08-31-2012, 09:04 AM	#6
jkretzer Name: jkretzer Title: MegaCrank Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hunting, fishing or at work Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,444	brett, bet the ecm is fried, now got to find what is causing it to fry. got same problem older truck, still trying to find it. my pcm was, sent it off, tested and rebuilt. keep posting what you find. __________________ 98 12v, DTT auto, ADT Motor, Mid-Atlantic Diesel Tuning and Twins. 62/13/s400 56 chevy shortbed restomod, 2wd, cummins 4bt, nv4500.

09-07-2012, 02:00 PM	#7
dzlfarmboy Name: dzlfarmboy Title: Supporting Vendor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,448	The other day I tried starting it for the hell of it and the batterys went really weak so I threw the charger on it for a bit and keyed it back on and the volts & Fuel level gauges came up and it started. Shut it of and restarted once. Took the charger off it shut it off and now its the same thing nothing. But before it had plenty of cranking juice. __________________ *F1 Diesel,HTT,Goerend Trans,410-490-6075*

09-07-2012, 02:13 PM	#8
Astaindsoul5446 Name: Astaindsoul5446 Title: FNG Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Milford NY Member`s Gallery Posts: 257	Alternator shorting out?

09-13-2012, 09:00 AM	#12
dzlfarmboy Name: dzlfarmboy Title: Supporting Vendor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,448	Funny I already removed all the cables and cleaned them and reinstalled after it wouldnt start as they were very loose on the post. So I just rechecked them 2 days ago with a 1/2" wrench and snugged them up again. Keyed on gauges came up and it started and has been fine starting and driving it multiple times since then. Always something stupid with electronics. __________________ *F1 Diesel,HTT,Goerend Trans,410-490-6075*