Advertisement |
|
|
|
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above.
You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
|
General Diesel Tech Farm equipment, Medium Duty, Big Rigs, and other General discussion can be found in here. |
07-05-2017, 07:55 AM
|
#1
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,788
|
Need assistance. Mustang MTL16 Fuel Stop Motor.
Fighting an issue with my buddy's Mustang MTL16 with a Yanmar in it.
He called and wanted my help. It would crank but wouldn't fire. I told him it sounded like the fuel stop solenoid was bad. Come to find out, it is a stop "motor" not a plunger type solenoid that goes flump flump. It actually rotates back and forth. Apparently it has a fuel stop relay and a timer.
I can't for the life of me find any diagrams on the interwebz on how this Asian some-buck is wired. I actually took two wires from the battery and got the motor to drive one direction and it fired right up. Then we had to pull a fuel line and let it starve after 35 minutes to get it to stop. I can't make the motor go the other direction.
Anyone have experience, knowledge, or diagrams? I'm googlin' everything I can think of.
Thanks in advance.
__________________
Jory 2009 4x4 3500 MCLB
"There are people far less intelligent than you making a living doing this stuff." - Jeff Mumau
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 08:00 AM
|
#2
|
Name: 06 DIESEL
Title: Dead Eye Firearms LLC
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Airville, PA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,115
|
Guys at work just had a similar thing happen to their bobcat skid steer, to start it they have to jump the starter and to stop it they stall the machine. It will not start with the key because it is showing a code for a bad relay.
__________________
Travis
My rig - 2021 Mega 3500 SRW
My Classic - 79 Chevy Silverado
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonA
Trucks are like women. Sometimes you just need to spend money on them to keep them happy.
|
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 08:02 AM
|
#3
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,788
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 06 DIESEL
Guys at work just had a similar thing happen to their bobcat skid steer, to start it they have to jump the starter and to stop it they stall the machine. It will not start with the key because it is showing a code for a bad relay.
|
It's the same as a fuel solenoid on a 12V...but it rotates so it has to be driven one direction to enable fuel then driven the other direction in order to stop fuel. Never seen one before. I'm trying to find a diagram so I can start probing on it.
Needs replaced with a cable from the cab.
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 08:23 AM
|
#4
|
Name: DISTURBED
Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Winchester, Va
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,417
|
My John Deere 935 & 915 lawn mower with the 3 cylinder yanmar engines has the same deal as the 12v. They tend to stick some times and you have to move them by hand.
__________________
Thanks, Jeremy
01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig
96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance
96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 08:26 AM
|
#5
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,788
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DISTURBED
My John Deere 935 & 915 lawn mower with the 3 cylinder yanmar engines has the same deal as the 12v. They tend to stick some times and you have to move them by hand.
|
This one is a little motor that rotates and the lever mounted on the end of the motor shaft is what pulls and pushes the fuel stop lever back and forth. I couldn't move it with my hand or a prybar.
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 08:54 AM
|
#6
|
Name: DISTURBED
Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Winchester, Va
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,417
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4dually
This one is a little motor that rotates and the lever mounted on the end of the motor shaft is what pulls and pushes the fuel stop lever back and forth. I couldn't move it with my hand or a prybar.
|
Oh now I understand. I've not seen one of those before. I agree a pull cable to the cab is the way to go
__________________
Thanks, Jeremy
01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig
96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance
96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance
Last edited by DISTURBED; 07-05-2017 at 08:56 AM.
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 09:04 AM
|
#7
|
Name: zstroken
Title: For $$$ your name here
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Western Michigan(by the lake)
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 23,151
|
Could you make a push/pull cable?
__________________
2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE
97 Dodge gone....
24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired)
Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 09:22 AM
|
#8
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,788
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DISTURBED
Oh now I understand. I've not seen one of those before. I agree a pull cable to the cab is the way to go
|
I'm not the most versed in mechanical injected diesels....but it was a new one for me. Why the hell would anyone relay on a motor to stop a motor? Stupid design.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zstroken
Could you make a push/pull cable?
|
Yes. Probably the best choice function and budget wise.
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 11:53 AM
|
#9
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,788
|
Does anyone have access to parts/diagrams for a Yanmar 4TNE98-tbl motor?
I'm googlin' now.....I can't find a fuel shutoff that is a motor and not a solenoid.
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 12:44 PM
|
#10
|
Name: mikmaze
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairfield NJ
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,292
|
__________________
04.5 Qcab shorty EVIL TWIN CP3's 100 % over nozzles, ats 3 piece, HTT 64 71 13 ss over S480, arp's , GOEREND , Hamilton 181 210 & valve springs, UDC beta
2006 Liberty CRD w/ GDE eco
'91 JD 1070 dzl
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 12:49 PM
|
#11
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,788
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikmaze
does it look like this one? hard to see what you are working with to help...
|
Nope. It is not a push-pull type. It is motor type. When activated, it rotates one direction to enable fuel, then rotates back the other direction to disable fuel. It's retarded.
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 05:00 PM
|
#12
|
Name: mikmaze
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairfield NJ
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,292
|
sounds like it.
__________________
04.5 Qcab shorty EVIL TWIN CP3's 100 % over nozzles, ats 3 piece, HTT 64 71 13 ss over S480, arp's , GOEREND , Hamilton 181 210 & valve springs, UDC beta
2006 Liberty CRD w/ GDE eco
'91 JD 1070 dzl
|
|
|
07-05-2017, 08:17 PM
|
#13
|
Name: hotfarm1066
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2014
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 213
|
Had a Isuzu in a excavator with the same deal, called a step motor. It went bad and was frieght fully expensive ran a cable and it was fixed.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10 AM.
|