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02-14-2012, 04:30 PM
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Name: oldestof11
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Originally Posted by 9724VF350
12mm seems in the 300-350 hp range, 14mm seems to be around 500-550 hp. fuel only. Not speaking from experience on this.
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Um... no.
14mm now has 9xx on spray, 690ish on fuel. 12mm around 500-550.
Glad someone did this! Did you advance timing by jumping the gear 1 tooth?
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02-14-2012, 05:09 PM
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Name: LReiff
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I got the stuff to mount an A but I can't remember how much is the same as other pumps. Interesting idea!
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02-15-2012, 10:16 AM
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Name: Diesel Freak
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hmmm this is cool!!!
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02-15-2012, 10:16 AM
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Name: Diesel Freak
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how much RPM can you get out of a VE Pump??
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02-15-2012, 11:00 AM
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Name: LuckyLegs
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3200 is about it for a VE.
I thought the A pump mounted the same as the P. I know guys with the A pumps on DT466s that have swapped to P's.
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02-15-2012, 11:03 AM
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Name: RonA
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And they are perfect for high rpm because of the linear fueling curve. Ultra high injection pressure too for a clean burn with large injectors.
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03-29-2012, 12:18 AM
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Name: 2kctd
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about what are the limits of injector size it could handle? I've been thinking about this swap as I'm not looking to go crazy horsepower but still want the mechanical injection
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05-28-2012, 08:30 AM
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Name: rockytopcummins
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What is the A pump? I've never heard of this...
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06-20-2012, 04:39 PM
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Name: explosives87
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What a slick idea, i would like to know what it would take to do this.
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06-20-2012, 05:27 PM
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Name: BowtiedCTD
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Nice, now we know who to call or pm when we get back to getting our VE running.
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03-27-2013, 09:18 AM
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Name: WUnderwood
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open sesame
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03-27-2013, 09:53 AM
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Name: 9724VF350
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After having several of the 12mm ends come off the VP lines, we started looking for a simple easy solution.
Mark Nixon seemed to have decent results with the helicoil/lugnut/torch method, but I was looking for something a little slicker.
Timesert thread inserts. http://www.timesert.com/index.html
No one could tell us what the outer thread was for a 12mm 1.5 insert, so we ordered some off ebay. Just so happens they are 14mm 1.5. Threads right in the line, threads right on the pump. Done deal, quick, easy, cheap.
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04-03-2013, 02:36 PM
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Name: cetanefreek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyLegs
3200 is about it for a VE.
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the 6 cylinder VE in my old BMW fueled to 5200 from the factory, although it has much smaller internals (8mm head IIRC) and a completely different governor
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05-15-2013, 09:05 PM
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Name: cetanefreek
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So how are you liking it?
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05-15-2013, 09:49 PM
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Name: 9724VF350
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Makes for a nice driver as we figured, snappy and starts well. Would like to see a bit better mileage, but we haven't adjusted a danged thing since we bolted it together. Need to make time to fiddle with it.
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Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now , 13mm, S475
Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
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05-15-2013, 10:55 PM
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Name: cetanefreek
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I'm pretty tempted to try it myself, I'm sure not impressed with the drive-ability of the P... as you mentioned.
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09-29-2013, 07:38 AM
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Name: kubotaorange76
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9724VF350
After having several of the 12mm ends come off the VP lines, we started looking for a simple easy solution.
Mark Nixon seemed to have decent results with the helicoil/lugnut/torch method, but I was looking for something a little slicker.
Timesert thread inserts. http://www.timesert.com/index.html
No one could tell us what the outer thread was for a 12mm 1.5 insert, so we ordered some off ebay. Just so happens they are 14mm 1.5. Threads right in the line, threads right on the pump. Done deal, quick, easy, cheap. |
tried to send a pm but i dont have 10 posts
can you give a little more info on these time serts?
this enabled you to use stock vp44 lines without modification?
trying to narrow down which is the right one?
time sert m12x1.5 | eBay
i got cover and ve pump off a 90 for free, looks like with these i can get my swap done on my 99 for 1/4 the price of a p-pump swap
looks like we dont have to move computer either. what did you do for a lift pump?
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Last edited by kubotaorange76; 09-29-2013 at 07:43 AM.
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09-29-2013, 07:55 AM
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Name: kubotaorange76
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cant edit my post after 15 mins
wanted to add this catalog
http://www.timesert.com/html/catalog.pdf
trying to figure out what length to go with
looks like 12mm x 1.5 - 16.2mm is the common size? that comes in their kits?
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Last edited by kubotaorange76; 09-29-2013 at 08:07 AM.
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10-02-2013, 09:23 PM
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Name: kubotaorange76
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going to try and move forward, ill post back if i have sucess
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10-02-2013, 10:06 PM
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Name: 9724VF350
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The ones we used were too long, we had to cut them down, I'll order shorter ones next time. Thread them in the line nut, and thread the nut on the pump.
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Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now , 13mm, S475
Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
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