Advertisement |
|
|
|
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above.
You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
|
Dodge Competition and Performance General Dodge Competition and Performance Discussion |
11-02-2012, 10:25 AM
|
#1
|
Name: ARbowhunter7
Title: Opulence...I Has It.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: White, GA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,370
|
Other Guys With Fuel Sumps, Weigh In
I love the simplicity of the fuel sump, but there's something that's been annoying me...fuel slosh. My tank is 34 gallons, but when I get to 1/3 tank or so, any sudden start or stop will take my FP from 45 psi to 0 psi momentarily. I get fuel, and top it off at 22 gallons, and that's it (in a 34 gallon tank). Anyone else run into this?
__________________
Welding Rig - 2014 Longhorn 3500 C&C 4x4 Aisin
-S400 swap, Carli Suspension, Synergy/EMF Steering, King 2.5
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 10:39 AM
|
#2
|
Name: ctdiesel99
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lansdale, PA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,789
|
With a sump you're experiencing this?
I've purposefully ran out of fuel in my truck numerous times with our sump installed to test what you're running into. Every time i've ran out, i pulled the drain plug on the bottom of the sump and got a little trickle and that was it, sucker was about plum dry. Put 2 gallons in it to get me to the gas station, and got 33 gallons in it at that point to fill it up. Granted this was just normal driving, didn't hit any hills purposefully but there are some here around the shop and never really ran into an issue with it.
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 10:43 AM
|
#3
|
Name: ARbowhunter7
Title: Opulence...I Has It.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: White, GA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,370
|
Could my mounting position be a problem? It's dead in the middle of the tank.
__________________
Welding Rig - 2014 Longhorn 3500 C&C 4x4 Aisin
-S400 swap, Carli Suspension, Synergy/EMF Steering, King 2.5
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 10:56 AM
|
#4
|
Name: DirtyMaxx03
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,862
|
shouldnt it be at the rear?
__________________
Sean
Stock 2005 LLY
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 10:58 AM
|
#5
|
Name: madmikeismad
Title: So mad
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Newalla, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 14,347
|
Mine is also dead middle of the tank/slightly to the rear. I get this problem at an 1/8 tank, but I just take it slower till I get to a fill up spot. I don't like running it that low anyways. Mine would also slosh going around turns too fast or hills too steep. I always keep it over 1/4 tank now, except on road trips.
__________________
Mike Hill
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:00 AM
|
#6
|
Name: madmikeismad
Title: So mad
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Newalla, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 14,347
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARbowhunter7
Could my mounting position be a problem? It's dead in the middle of the tank.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyMaxx03
shouldnt it be at the rear?
|
From what I remember, the instructions from bean or the other one said use the lowest/flattest spot on the tank, which on mine was rearward of dead center.
__________________
Mike Hill
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:07 AM
|
#7
|
Name: duck_04
Title: resident quack
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: KY
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,903
|
Thats one thing I hate about my draw straw. I can run it until the fuel needle is on the peg if I stay on fairly flat ground, but anything below a 1/4 tank when it sloshes my pressure will drop from 17psi to nothing until it sloshes back
__________________
Matt 2004 Ram 2500
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:16 AM
|
#8
|
Name: RonA
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Liberal ground zero.
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 11,058
|
Mine does the same thing.
__________________
55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:19 AM
|
#9
|
Name: SKYNYRD
Title: "Drunkard"
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Harpers Ferry, WV
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,666
|
I never had this issue with mine at all. you could try installing a ring with holes to allow the fuel to flow into the ring but hold the fuel when it sloshes around.
__________________
Leonard
79 VW rabbit diesel (ALH & 4motion )
04.5 rclb 4x4
01 & 03 VW Golf TDI
05 rcsb 2wd (in progress )
ROSKOE115: "It's ain't avatar material but I'd hit it!"
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:33 AM
|
#10
|
Name: TheBigNasty
Title: Project bish
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Magnolia, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,385
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by duck_04
Thats one thing I hate about my draw straw. I can run it until the fuel needle is on the peg if I stay on fairly flat ground, but anything below a 1/4 tank when it sloshes my pressure will drop from 17psi to nothing until it sloshes back
|
Never had a problem with mine, but its a draw straw in a modified stock canister.
__________________
Brandon
2012 Ford F250 King Ranch
2004 Dodge 2500 Sport
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:38 AM
|
#11
|
Name: Ktown6.0
Title: I can't remember
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Just Outside of Gainesville.
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 635
|
No pressure gauge here.
But, I can run the truck empty if I want. I have my sump approximate center. Just offset from the fuel gauge/sender assembly. I also don't like to have a super low amount of fuel in the tank.
The only thing I notice is when I do run it low and have to park on an incline or leave the truck sit, there is a lack of pressure held in the system and the truck is hard to start.
__________________
Ray B.
1999 Dodge 3500 P-Pump 24v,
Parts from and Thanks to:
Beans Diesel
Mumau Diesel
Pure Diesel Power
Air Dog
Turbo Matt's Diesel
Garmon
1986 Jetta Coupe 1.6D, 5spd
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 11:39 AM
|
#12
|
Name: duck_04
Title: resident quack
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: KY
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,903
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigNasty
Never had a problem with mine, but its a draw straw in a modified stock canister.
|
I'm running just the regular metal draw straw beside the canister
__________________
Matt 2004 Ram 2500
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 12:03 PM
|
#13
|
Name: khaoskustoms
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2010
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,707
|
Anyone ever tried fuel cell foam in the tank? I'm thinking about doing this to my Dakota tank. I'd like to try and control fuel slosh somehow. Fass' sump so far has the best idea for keeping fuel above the sump by putting the stock sending unit canister right over it. I've got a Beans sump on my Dakota and a draw straw on my 07. I haven't run my Dakota yet, so no personal feedback on the sump yet.
__________________
94 Dakota, 4BT Twin Turbo Drag Truck
08 F450 TT12V , Tow pig
01 6.7 VP Dually, Tow pig
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 01:31 PM
|
#14
|
Name: Toolman
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southern Michigan
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,077
|
Check out my sump in the B & B Tooling forum . I built it so it would hold fuel in the sump and wouldn't slosh out. It can be mounted in the back of the tank and you don't have to drop the tank. I have ran my truck at the track with the low fuel light on with out a problem I made it so I could run as little fuel as possible to race with but I still have the stock tank capacity if I want to street drive it somewhere.
__________________
04.5 Dodge ,PPE Dual Fueler, Stainless Diesel, Bullseye Power Turbo, Fass Fuel Systems, M & J Tool Converter and shafts, Smarty UDC Tuning , Isspro Gauges, Fluidampr
B&B Tooling 269-496-9021
B & B Tooling Intakes and custom machined parts.
Member of Drive by Wire Mafia
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 01:37 PM
|
#15
|
Name: Smokie Okie
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SW Oklahoma
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 764
|
Mine is mounted slightly rear of center and my fuel return dumps directly into it from the top of the tank. I haven't had any issues.
__________________
'93 W250 X-cab returned to stock
'06 Grocery getter
Molon Labe, Deo Vindici
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 02:06 PM
|
#16
|
Name: Big Swole
Title: MegaInterceptor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Atlanta, GA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 16,950
|
Never got to test mine that low, it would usually just blow up before going empty... lol
J/K
I liked the BDP Sump better than the draw straw.
__________________
-HIS
-2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black
-2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic
-2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic
-2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned)
-HERS
-2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins,
-2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige
-2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 03:12 PM
|
#17
|
Name: 4x4dually
Title: Moderator
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Stillwater, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31,812
|
Oooo...pretty.
__________________
Jory 2009 4x4 3500 MCLB
"There are people far less intelligent than you making a living doing this stuff." - Jeff Mumau
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 03:14 PM
|
#18
|
Name: ctdiesel99
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lansdale, PA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,789
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by khaoskustoms
Anyone ever tried fuel cell foam in the tank? I'm thinking about doing this to my Dakota tank. I'd like to try and control fuel slosh somehow. Fass' sump so far has the best idea for keeping fuel above the sump by putting the stock sending unit canister right over it. I've got a Beans sump on my Dakota and a draw straw on my 07. I haven't run my Dakota yet, so no personal feedback on the sump yet.
|
I wouldn't recommend running foam w/ diesel fuel
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 03:34 PM
|
#19
|
Name: Lostnwalmart
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tokyo Japan
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 8,970
|
I have never had an issue with mine and have run it hard under 1/4 tank. But my pump is below the tank as well.
__________________
Ecorico scooter!!
-Cliff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snedge
Anybody that would not haul a dinosaur for an orphanage is no friend of mine.
To some people it's all about money. Geez
|
|
|
|
11-02-2012, 04:05 PM
|
#20
|
Name: ctdiesel99
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lansdale, PA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,789
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ktown6.0
No pressure gauge here.
But, I can run the truck empty if I want. I have my sump approximate center. Just offset from the fuel gauge/sender assembly. I also don't like to have a super low amount of fuel in the tank.
The only thing I notice is when I do run it low and have to park on an incline or leave the truck sit, there is a lack of pressure held in the system and the truck is hard to start.
|
We usually mount ours underneath of the stock canister:
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 PM.
|