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[madmikeismad]

I need good motor mounts. What should I get?

[UNBROKEN]

Years ago when I had a rod exit the block in several places it was the same scenario...75mph down the highway with the cruise set....minding my own business. I remember thinking I blew a tire too...until I saw the black trail on the road behind me.

[madmikeismad]

Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

Years ago when I had a rod exit the block in several places it was the same scenario...75mph down the highway with the cruise set....minding my own business. I remember thinking I blew a tire too...until I saw the black trail on the road behind me.

Yeah I left a good 400ft oil/water track lol

[biggy238]

Oh, I meant that I have the ticking time bomb happening. I imagine the noise you had is louder than what I have going on.

I'll speakery engerish next time.

[madmikeismad]

Oh lol.

So for now I've got:
Bare/fresh machined storm block
Potentially good stock cam
complete gasket kit coming
Non-ic pistons/rings/wrist pins
New tappets
New crank and rod bearings
Swapping the 78/92/1.1 for a gt4202. Supposed to spool like a bandit, and will help limit my power greed. I really am dedicated to keeping this under 700hp this time. I might actually drop injector size too.

If my head is still good, I'm going to reuse it so I can keep the orings for the twins. Same for the billet push rods I have, if they aren't scarred or bent.

I'm going to replace the motor mounts while it's out. Engine torques over a good 4" under light load.

For rods. I can keep with stock ones, should I bother with anything special? Shot peening, etc....?

Am I missing anything?

[madmikeismad]

These seem to be about the only option out there for motor mount bushings.

http://www.genosgarage.com/ENERGY-SU.../#.VK2nld_0-tI

[12vriviera]

Stock rods.. 12 or 24v, you can mess with polish and peen if you want but it shouldn't matter at that level

[madmikeismad]

Originally Posted by 24vriviera

Stock rods.. 12 or 24v, you can mess with polish and peen if you want but it shouldn't matter at that level

Ok. I'll stick with stock 12v then.
Is it worth getting the crank/rods/pistons checked out in the blown motor, or should I just toss them out or make lamps with them?

[Shainer]

Originally Posted by madmikeismad

These seem to be about the only option out there for motor mount bushings.

http://www.genosgarage.com/ENERGY-SU.../#.VK2nld_0-tI

I believe both Energy Suspension and Prothane make inserts. Definitely something you want to do with the engine out. Be prepared to perform some shaping with a flapper wheel on a grinder to get them to fit.

[madmikeismad]

Originally Posted by Shainer

I believe both Energy Suspension and Prothane make inserts. Definitely something you want to do with the engine out. Be prepared to perform some shaping with a flapper wheel on a grinder to get them to fit.

I did see the prothane ones mentioned elsewhere, but common opinion was they were a pain in the ass. Are they about equal in quality/longevity? How do they compare in stiffness to stock?

[12vriviera]

Originally Posted by madmikeismad

Ok. I'll stick with stock 12v then.
Is it worth getting the crank/rods/pistons checked out in the blown motor, or should I just toss them out or make lamps with them?

In my opinion if they are dinged up pretty bad, o would not reuse them

Others know better than me though

[TrailTamer]

Originally Posted by madmikeismad

I did see the prothane ones mentioned elsewhere, but common opinion was they were a pain in the ass. Are they about equal in quality/longevity? How do they compare in stiffness to stock?

I have them in my mounts. They're not bushing replacements. They go into the stock motor mounts' existing bushing, to fill up it's voids.

I didn't cut/sand/grind mine down at all to put it in.

[madmikeismad]

Originally Posted by 24vriviera

In my opinion if they are dinged up pretty bad, o would not reuse them

Others know better than me though

Of course if they are visibly damaged I'll turn them into art. I mean checking more for cracks or bent stuff. Structural integrity and whatnot. I'm assuming after it blew it created a lot of stress on the rotating assembly that might have caused damage not visible to the naked eye?

Originally Posted by TrailTamer

I have them in my mounts. They're not bushing replacements. They go into the stock motor mounts' existing bushing, to fill up it's voids.

I didn't cut/sand/grind mine down at all to put it in.

That gives me hope.

[Peterson]

Originally Posted by TrailTamer

I have them in my mounts. They're not bushing replacements. They go into the stock motor mounts' existing bushing, to fill up it's voids.

I didn't cut/sand/grind mine down at all to put it in.

Same with mine, let them sit in a pail of hot water to get them soft and they go right in. Have a vice close by to push them in. They are really easy.

[madmikeismad]

Originally Posted by Peterson

Same with mine, let them sit in a pail of hot water to get them soft and they go right in. Have a vice close by to push them in. They are really easy.

I'll try that first lol

Ended up with these. Cheapest place even with 2 day shipping.

Amazon.com: Energy Suspension 51114G Cummins Engine Mount Insert: Automotive

Amazon.com: Energy Suspension 51114G Cummins Engine Mount Insert: Automotive

[cleansi]

Originally Posted by madmikeismad

Oh lol.

So for now I've got:
Bare/fresh machined storm block
Potentially good stock cam
complete gasket kit coming
Non-ic pistons/rings/wrist pins
New tappets
New crank and rod bearings
Swapping the 78/92/1.1 for a gt4202. Supposed to spool like a bandit, and =
Am I missing anything?

nice i have a gt4201 really like it but im down grading

[CorneliusRox]

Wait, so you push them into the rubber bushing and have them cut into the rubber? I'm not sure I understand if not.

I have seen people make their own motor mounts out of poly bushings if nothing else.

[madmikeismad]

Originally Posted by cleansi

nice i have a gt4201 really like it but im down grading

So I keep forgetting garrett stuff, but the gt42 means 83mm turbine right? and the 02 is the exducer on the compressor? So it's a touch smaller than a 4202?

[TrailTamer]

Originally Posted by CorneliusRox

Wait, so you push them into the rubber bushing and have them cut into the rubber? I'm not sure I understand if not.

I have seen people make their own motor mounts out of poly bushings if nothing else.

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sion/17542.pdf

[CorneliusRox]

Originally Posted by TrailTamer

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sion/17542.pdf

ahh, those slide into the gaps that used to be there 2xx,xxx miles ago ;-)