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03-25-2019, 03:06 PM
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Name: Chassisman
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The final Step
Here are some things I do to hold things together I thought I'd share before I get old and pass... Safety wire the hard to reach return lines and manifold bolts as they have a tendency to smash seals and loosen up over time.
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03-25-2019, 10:42 PM
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Name: smoken02
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Interesting. Never seen this done before on bolts and fittings. Would have never thought of that.
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03-25-2019, 11:38 PM
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Interesting. Never seen this done before on bolts and fittings. Would have never thought of that.
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Seriously? Safety wiring has been around for a very long time. Probably started in aviation, and aerospace where a loose bolt kills a bunch of people. In some racing you need it done to pass tech.
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03-26-2019, 06:41 AM
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Nord Locks are a good alternative to tie wire. Not sure if it will pass tech but it is as good as tie wire.
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03-26-2019, 08:41 AM
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Are you using the safety wire mainly because of high impact/off roading? Or just all around safety?
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03-26-2019, 09:16 AM
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Are you using the safety wire mainly because of high impact/off roading? Or just all around safety?
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Just on the more common bolts that seem to loosen, or leak. I have a bad back so it was easier to do while the head was off I did as much pre- assembly as possible.
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03-26-2019, 09:33 AM
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Seriously? Safety wiring has been around for a very long time. Probably started in aviation, and aerospace where a loose bolt kills a bunch of people. In some racing you need it done to pass tech.
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I see it a lot in DOD stuff. I hate that crap. 
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03-26-2019, 01:40 PM
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Are you using the safety wire mainly because of high impact/off roading? Or just all around safety?
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In my life, I've only needed to do it for motorcycle road racing. So kind of the opposite to off road, low speed stuff. I am pretty sure most of it is due to high frequency engine inputs at 13,000+ RPM. Second and third order frequencies are usually what is tough with embedment and bolts loosening.
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03-26-2019, 02:16 PM
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In my life, I've only needed to do it for motorcycle road racing. So kind of the opposite to off road, low speed stuff. I am pretty sure most of it is due to high frequency engine inputs at 13,000+ RPM. Second and third order frequencies are usually what is tough with embedment and bolts loosening.
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If I remember right, they probably had you wire your brake rotors, or carriers/hubs, and maybe your rear sprocket?
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03-26-2019, 02:19 PM
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I see it a lot in DOD stuff. I hate that crap. |
Ya, if you've ever flown on a C-130, or CH 53/46 etc it's everywhere to keep the hydraulic lines from coming loose.
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03-28-2019, 08:20 AM
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Looks good, definitely doesn’t seem to hurt anything. I’m planning on using safety wire on a few things, at the very least the oil pickup tube bolts.
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03-28-2019, 01:21 PM
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Name: smoken02
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Originally Posted by Chassisman
Seriously? Safety wiring has been around for a very long time. Probably started in aviation, and aerospace where a loose bolt kills a bunch of people. In some racing you need it done to pass tech.
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Ya the only thing I can remember using that technique on is dirtbike hand grips. That way they didn’t slide off the handle bars.
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03-28-2019, 04:22 PM
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Ya the only thing I can remember using that technique on is dirtbike hand grips. That way they didn’t slide off the handle bars.
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That could be bad! 
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