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Dazed&Confused · 10-24-2010, 11:52 AM

Ok this goes out to anyone just stuck it in the 2wd thread since its what I'm building. How are you guys running brakes and the 16" Izuzu wheels? The drum is to big to run so are you running nothing or disc somehow? Could use some help.

Howling · 10-24-2010, 12:11 PM

Usually you take the brakes off.

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Dazed&Confused · 10-24-2010, 12:46 PM

Thats what I was thinking but dont know if I can do that.

RyanB · 10-24-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused

Thats what I was thinking but dont know if I can do that.

your going to deffinatly need rear brakes on the 2wd and the 2wd trucks up here (fully blown 16-71) engines run a very large rotor/disk brake setup. The rotors can be more than 24" in diameter and are mouted inward of the wheels. Remember...you are going need the steer it with the brakes and oem drums or disks are not going to be up to the task of that!

Dazed&Confused · 10-24-2010, 10:08 PM

looks like I won't be running brakes. I won't be setting up to run dual brakes on this. Lynn has pulled for two seasons now not using steering brakes. I talked with him a bit earlier tonight and a few gas 2wd guys and only one of them runs a pinion style brake.

zstroken · 10-24-2010, 10:11 PM

I wonder if as you get to the high HP if the steering breaks come into play. Lynn ran a spool correct?

Dazed&Confused · 10-24-2010, 10:28 PM

Yes Lynn ran a spool. I don't think he plans to run brakes either though but I'll let him awnser that. I only spoke to him for a minute or two today so I'll let him share what he knows.

RyanB · 10-26-2010, 10:51 AM

Not sure how you guys do it down south but we have a bunch of Grand National 2wd's up here and one of them actually took everything at bowling Green 2 or 3 years ago now. Anyway, all of the 2wd's up here as well as the blown Mini's are running steer brakes on either side of the rear end and all are running an open differential. A spool in a 2wd is a very BAD idea and can cause a wreck very quickly!!! Call up Tod at TRB Machine and ask him about running a spool in Mini or TWD and see what he says!!!

zstroken · 10-26-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanB

Not sure how you guys do it down south but we have a bunch of Grand National 2wd's up here and one of them actually took everything at bowling Green 2 or 3 years ago now. Anyway, all of the 2wd's up here as well as the blown Mini's are running steer brakes on either side of the rear end and all are running an open differential. A spool in a 2wd is a very BAD idea and can cause a wreck very quickly!!! Call up Tod at TRB Machine and ask him about running a spool in Mini or TWD and see what he says!!!

I wonder if the difference is the HP, the lower HP vehicles the fronts kind of kiss the ground going down the track, so they can offer a little guidance, versus the big HP which lift the fronts and carry it all the way down the track!

Dazed&Confused · 10-26-2010, 11:11 AM

I think the weight and setup have allot to do with them. The minis seem to be so light its about impossible to keep the front down.

Got Smoke? · 10-26-2010, 07:11 PM

Lynn ran a spool for the last year, and only had 2 instances in which he had to let out because the front wheel's were off the ground and it was about to get REAL ugly!

Since then he took the 4" lift blocks out of the rear suspension and it helped TREMENDOUSLY! It only raises the steer tires now when the pan drops and drags him to a stop. I'm anxious to see what the super low 2 tone gears do to help him get down the track!

Rods · 10-26-2010, 07:30 PM

U dont need rear brakes

Dazed&Confused · 10-26-2010, 07:37 PM

Good because they are laying in the scrap pile.

Got Smoke? · 10-26-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rods

U dont need rear brakes

Ask me how I know.....

Fireman450 · 10-27-2010, 10:34 PM

Yes I have ran a welded rear and and a full spool. Only had a few instances where i had to let out. but i didnt have my weights right at the time...

Most of, if not all the gas guys i talked to run a welded rear end.
I still plan on running the same thing and fabbing up some sort of a pinion brake.
Saw a guy make a roter out of a piece of flat steel and use a caliper off a small car or a fourwheeler. it dont take much to stop one with a pinion brake.

Thats my .02 anyways.

Andy let me know when ya get those wheels and ill come up and get em.

Thanks
Lynn

Dazed&Confused · 10-28-2010, 06:53 AM

Going to try to get them this weekend Lynn. I'll call you if I'm able to get them.

10-24-2010, 11:52 AM	#1
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	F 106 brakes? Ok this goes out to anyone just stuck it in the 2wd thread since its what I'm building. How are you guys running brakes and the 16" Izuzu wheels? The drum is to big to run so are you running nothing or disc somehow? Could use some help. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

10-24-2010, 12:11 PM	#2
Howling Name: Howling Title: Soot Sniffer Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern,IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,304	Usually you take the brakes off. Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk __________________ Eric 2006 Dodge CTD/48re 4x4 Sport With some fuel and air. Bullseye,Hamilton,Exergy,EFI,ATS,FASS,HTS,Thuren, Toyo's... 1996 2500 RC 4x4 CTD-63/68/.83,5X.014,180 maxed Ppump,Fass...

10-24-2010, 12:46 PM	#3
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	Thats what I was thinking but dont know if I can do that. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

10-24-2010, 10:08 PM	#5
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	looks like I won't be running brakes. I won't be setting up to run dual brakes on this. Lynn has pulled for two seasons now not using steering brakes. I talked with him a bit earlier tonight and a few gas 2wd guys and only one of them runs a pinion style brake. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

10-24-2010, 10:11 PM	#6
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	I wonder if as you get to the high HP if the steering breaks come into play. Lynn ran a spool correct? __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

10-24-2010, 10:28 PM	#7
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	Yes Lynn ran a spool. I don't think he plans to run brakes either though but I'll let him awnser that. I only spoke to him for a minute or two today so I'll let him share what he knows. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

10-26-2010, 10:51 AM	#8
RyanB Name: RyanB Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Member`s Gallery Posts: 977	Not sure how you guys do it down south but we have a bunch of Grand National 2wd's up here and one of them actually took everything at bowling Green 2 or 3 years ago now. Anyway, all of the 2wd's up here as well as the blown Mini's are running steer brakes on either side of the rear end and all are running an open differential. A spool in a 2wd is a very BAD idea and can cause a wreck very quickly!!! Call up Tod at TRB Machine and ask him about running a spool in Mini or TWD and see what he says!!! __________________ 2009 Tube Chassis Super-Mod Dodge

10-26-2010, 11:11 AM	#10
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	I think the weight and setup have allot to do with them. The minis seem to be so light its about impossible to keep the front down. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

10-26-2010, 07:11 PM	#11
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	Lynn ran a spool for the last year, and only had 2 instances in which he had to let out because the front wheel's were off the ground and it was about to get REAL ugly! Since then he took the 4" lift blocks out of the rear suspension and it helped TREMENDOUSLY! It only raises the steer tires now when the pan drops and drags him to a stop. I'm anxious to see what the super low 2 tone gears do to help him get down the track! __________________ Mark 2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II. 1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater. 2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods

10-26-2010, 07:30 PM	#12
Rods Name: Rods Title: Turbo Crasher Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scottsville Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,972	U dont need rear brakes

10-26-2010, 07:37 PM	#13
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	Good because they are laying in the scrap pile. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

10-27-2010, 10:34 PM	#15
Fireman450 Name: Fireman450 Title: Daring to be diffrent!! Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton , KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,606	Yes I have ran a welded rear and and a full spool. Only had a few instances where i had to let out. but i didnt have my weights right at the time... Most of, if not all the gas guys i talked to run a welded rear end. I still plan on running the same thing and fabbing up some sort of a pinion brake. Saw a guy make a roter out of a piece of flat steel and use a caliper off a small car or a fourwheeler. it dont take much to stop one with a pinion brake. Thats my .02 anyways. Andy let me know when ya get those wheels and ill come up and get em. Thanks Lynn __________________ Lynn Chapman Driver: 04.5 CR Play Toy:1994 Dodge 12V, SMOKE SHOWIN! 2WD Pulling Team. vs. 3.0 in progress. Thanks to Northeast Diesel, MUMAU DIESEL , PullTech Chassis & Fab, Cooper High Performance, SKPP, Joe Gibbs Racing/Driven Racing Oils and all my friends and family!

10-28-2010, 06:53 AM	#16
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	Going to try to get them this weekend Lynn. I'll call you if I'm able to get them. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V