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Old 12-19-2017, 04:41 AM   #21
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Anybody already fitted a switch to their ELD ?
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:46 AM   #22
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Didn't ELD's get extended until April of 2018? They can only enforce a warning until then...isn't that correct, or was what I read fake news?

Correction. Maybe it mean it won't affect scores until then.

ELD Violations Won’t Affect CSA Scores Until April 1, 2018, Says the FMCSA
November 28th, 2017
According to the FMCSA, carriers without ELDs after the (ELD) mandate compliance deadline won’t incur points against their CSA scores until April 1, 2018. The announcement was made last week during the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) Southern Regional Road Show in Birmingham, Alabama.
The new policy came just at the right time considering how the ELD rule’s implementation date is December 18, 2017.
The announcement follows a Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA) statement in August that noncompliant drivers won’t be placed out of service until April 1, 2018.
Duane DeBruyne, an FMCSA spokesperson, said: “After December 18, 2017, if you don’t have an AOBRD or ELD, the violation will be cited, and a driver could be fined, but they won’t be put out of service. Companies that continually violate the rule could be subject to federal investigation as well,”
ELD Violation Won’t Affect Safety Measurement System
The FMCSA Field Administrator, Jon Dierberger, said that a driver found operating without an ELD or a compliant AOBRD between December 18, 2017, and April 1, 2018, will be cited for not having an electronic logging device.
However, Dierberger also mentioned that the citation would not affect the Safety Measurement System ranking.
Enforcement of ELD-Related Out-of-Service Criteria
The FMCSA and CVSA said in August that the enforcement of ELD-related out-of-service criteria would be pushed back to April 1, 2018 to make way for a a phase-in period for the implementation of the electronic logging device mandate.
Other officials also mentioned that inspectors would exercise “some amount of discretion” in issuing citations as the ELD mandate takes effect.
ELD Opposition Addressed
The FMCSA Deputy Administrator Cathy Gautreaux attended the public hearing in Birmingham, making it her first public appearance since assuming the post last week.
She spoke about the ongoing oppositions to the ELD mandate as well as the desire of small truckers for an extension of the deadline.
Gautreaux said: “FMCSA recognizes motor carriers, particularly independent and small motor carriers, want an extension. FMCSA cannot arbitrarily change the compliance date of December 18.”
Gautreaux pointed out that the final ELD rule was issued in 2015, and the mandate does not revise the Hours of Service rules and anything related to it. Hence, there is no reason to change the deadline.
Gautreaux said that the FMCSA has been training state-based trainers since October so that all jurisdictions would be ready for the ELD mandate implementation.
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:15 AM   #23
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Anybody already fitted a switch to their ELD ?


People just jailbreak them and you can edit without tattletales.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:09 AM   #24
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People just jailbreak them and you can edit without tattletales.
Sure but the hard data says all. Read the final rule i doubt there's really a way around it.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:33 AM   #25
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Sure but the hard data says all. Read the final rule i doubt there's really a way around it.


Do you really believe something electronic canít be modified? You really are as dumb as we thought.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:40 AM   #26
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Do you really believe something electronic canít be modified? You really are as dumb as we thought.
Read the final rule.

First the log that you see is only the output of a file. The file has specific annotations and includes a checksum.

Then there's the service provider. The ELD is constantly updating itself to the service provider. The service provider also has this file. If they don't match there's going to be an issue.

It's not as simple as jailbreaking a device to gain the administration account.

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Old 12-19-2017, 10:45 AM   #27
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Happy ELD day!

Iím glad you believe this. That means the cops will too. Because no one can calculate checksums. DF
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:20 AM   #28
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Iím glad you believe this. That means the cops will too. Because no one can calculate checksums. DF
Go read the final rule. Gaining administration access to edit drive time means jack squat.
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:37 AM   #29
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So YOU donít think someone can take the download from an elog and edit it?

This is music to my ears, or is that your elog beeping?
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:54 AM   #30
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So how bout that train derailment......

Electronics would've helped that right!!!?!

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Old 12-19-2017, 12:41 PM   #31
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So YOU donít think someone can take the download from an elog and edit it?

This is music to my ears, or is that your elog beeping?
This isn't a valid question. Log requests go straight from the service provider (their servers not your unit) to state patrol.

Read the final rule.
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:31 PM   #32
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Just spoke with a scale master at sisseton sd. South Dakota's fine is $170 USD. One interesting wrinkle is he said they no longer enforce 396.9. So there's no 15 day rule to install one after a violation.
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:37 PM   #33
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Just spoke with a scale master at sisseton sd. South Dakota's fine is $170 USD. One interesting wrinkle is he said they no longer enforce 396.9. So there's no 15 day rule to install one after a violation.
Am I the only one that thinks the title of "scale master" is a tad bit overkill?!
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:48 PM   #34
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This isn't a valid question. Log requests go straight from the service provider (their servers not your unit) to state patrol.

Read the final rule.
Ah can't be done then, your right. This thing is locked down tighter than area 51. The smartest people in the world work at the ELD companies and NO ONE can undo what they created NO ONE!


Read the final rule! And the final rule is final and no other rules can come after it.
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:56 PM   #35
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I hear deleting emissions trucks can result in heavy fines and requires cracking an electronic device....
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Final rule says itís not gonna happen.


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Old 12-19-2017, 04:47 PM   #37
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Looks good for vans at leastClick the image to open in full size.

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Old 12-19-2017, 04:53 PM   #38
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I hear deleting emissions trucks can result in heavy fines and requires cracking an electronic device....


Canít be done. I heard someone say once you couldnít haul Coors east of the Mississippi or make it from Texas to GA in 28hrs either.


Wanna bet when Allan watched that movie he was writing down all the DOT violations and reporting them to the proper authorities?
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