AFE stage II or Airaid - Competition Diesel.Com

*Dalpilot* · 08-13-2006, 10:05 PM

Is the AFE stage II a waste of $$ for the 06 cummins like it is for the 6.0?
I know they cost a lot more, but are they any better. The Ford AFE stage II's suck.

*Mark Craig* · 08-23-2006, 10:55 AM

Dalpilot,

Hey if for no other reason they have the Pro Guard 7 to protect the engine from dirt!

Mark @ DPPI

GHowieFarts · 08-23-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalpilot

Is the AFE stage II a waste of $$ for the 06 cummins like it is for the 6.0?
I know they cost a lot more, but are they any better. The Ford AFE stage II's suck.

My experience with the AFE has been different than yours................

*Snedge* · 09-07-2006, 04:57 PM

Save your money and go stage one. The real power comes from other mods anyway. There is a good article in Diesel Power Mag. on intake systems.No real big difference in flow among all of the different brands.
Fact is: The pro guard 7 stops more dirt. Dirt bad.
I'm not a big fan of the molded intake tubes as an add on. Unless looks mean something? I understand that counts for something.

chevyguy · 09-07-2006, 05:02 PM

I would recomend an AFE intake over the AirAid. I have heard several stories of the AirAid colapsing. We have never had a problem with the AFEs we've sold.

haz-mat19 · 09-07-2006, 05:53 PM

I have to agree, go with the stage one AFE. The pro guard 7 filters the most dirt, which is what you need anyway. My dad has an airaid on his 6.0 and is not happy with it.

*DPDIESEL* · 09-07-2006, 06:32 PM

Go stage 1 or some other brand. we have had nothing but trouble with the stage 2's and it is not much of a gain if any.

nummit · 09-07-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haz-mat19

I have to agree, go with the stage one AFE. The pro guard 7 filters the most dirt, which is what you need anyway. My dad has an airaid on his 6.0 and is not happy with it.

Why is he unhappy?

zukgod1 · 09-08-2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevyguy

I would recomend an AFE intake over the AirAid. I have heard several stories of the AirAid colapsing. We have never had a problem with the AFEs we've sold.

Gotta be carefull with comments like that..

Got pics? seen it?

Me either.

I will agree with the AFE comment even thought I dont have one. I like thier filters a bit better than Airaid, not sure why but I do. I think its because AFE uses that new cool filter media and Airaid uses the same stuff K&N does (I think).

Airaid doesnt seem to me to be designed to really compete with AFE? However I havnet seen anything other than thier quick fit systems using the bottom of the factory air box and replacing the top with a new open design v/s AFE has a complete replacement air box and usuallt the intake tube as well.

I looked at several systems when I bought mine and decided on the Airaid.
I sell both as well but I just couldnt see the extra $$$ for the AFE system

dan

oil-burner · 09-08-2006, 04:10 PM

i have a stage II on my 97 with a outerwear, have no problem at all. other than the dam thing sucks so hard that it pulls the insulation out of the hood pad, on a weeks worth of driving i can collect a good sized fur ball from the filter

scot

*Mark Craig* · 09-11-2006, 03:14 PM

DPDIESEL,

What kind of issues have you had we have had nothing but great feedback on the Stage II's????

Mark @ DPPI

*Mark Craig* · 09-11-2006, 03:16 PM

zukgod1,

The AFE uses a Patended 5 layer media. Each layer has a slightly smaller air hole and they cross stack the media so the air has to turn as it goes thru the layers, does an excellent job of stopping dirt!!! As far as I know all others use 4 or 5 layers of the same media and create a straight thru tunnel in the layers.

Mark @ DPPI

*DPDIESEL* · 09-11-2006, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Craig

DPDIESEL,

What kind of issues have you had we have had nothing but great feedback on the Stage II's????

Mark @ DPPI

Mark,

I agree that they do work good but with the new re-flash of Fords it doesn't. We had 3 different customers that had the aFe on there truck and it ran great, then they get the latest dealer re-flash and there truck won't run with the air intake on. We called aFe about the problem and got told it was because of the tube and that they had replacment ones to send out but we never got them. Then we had 2 06's and both of them wouldn't work. We just decided to use the stage 1 or another brand to go around these issues.

Wyatt Earp · 09-11-2006, 04:29 PM

I have a Stage 1 in my VW TDI and a Stage 2 in my CTD. The CTD has the normal element with a prefilter on it. Would recomment prefilters on any of them.

All oiled media filters need extra care and attention to be any good.

*Mark Craig* · 09-13-2006, 10:05 AM

DPDIESEL,

Ok good info. FYI don't sell the 54/75-10392 to any Ford 6.0 newer than a November 2005 build date and you should be OK! The new Stage II+ 54/75-11022 works on them all and actually out performs the enclosed 54/75-10392 Stage II. Maybe that'll help. If you still need the tubes call and they will get them to you but there is a large back order.

Mark @ DPPI

revoaggie · 10-16-2006, 06:15 PM

I i just installed a stage II afe with the 7 ply. You can def. hear the air enter. not sure on the power gains but looks nicer than that stock box

cowpunk · 10-16-2006, 07:49 PM

I just put my stage II on a few weeks ago and love it!!!

Also it lets the sound a billion times cooler.

*Billysgoat* · 10-16-2006, 07:54 PM

I just switched out the BHAF in my truck for an AFE PG 7 with prefilter, so far I really like it, throttle response is much improved as is turbo spoolup.

08-13-2006, 10:05 PM	#1
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	AFE stage II or Airaid Is the AFE stage II a waste of $$ for the 06 cummins like it is for the 6.0? I know they cost a lot more, but are they any better. The Ford AFE stage II's suck. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

08-23-2006, 10:55 AM	#2
Mark Craig Name: Mark Craig Title: CompetitionDiesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN. Member`s Gallery Posts: 116	Dalpilot, Hey if for no other reason they have the Pro Guard 7 to protect the engine from dirt! Mark @ DPPI __________________ DIESEL PERFORMANCE PARTS 1-866-455-7788 www.DIESELPERFORMANCEPARTS.COMMBRP SMARTY EDGE AUTO METER DiPRICOL/ISSPRO GAUGES/MOUNTS SUPERCHIPS PREDATOR BULLY DOG AFE INTAKE/EXHAUST TS PERFORMANCE POWERSLOT AIR DOG/RAPTOR FUEL SYSTEMS PML TRANNY PANS/DIFF COVERS ARP FLUIDAMPR STANADYNE INDUSTRIAL INJ

09-07-2006, 04:57 PM	#4
Snedge Name: Snedge Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Pa. Member`s Gallery Posts: 18,859	stage one pro guard 7 Save your money and go stage one. The real power comes from other mods anyway. There is a good article in Diesel Power Mag. on intake systems.No real big difference in flow among all of the different brands. Fact is: The pro guard 7 stops more dirt. Dirt bad. I'm not a big fan of the molded intake tubes as an add on. Unless looks mean something? I understand that counts for something. Last edited by Snedge; 09-08-2006 at 01:33 PM.

09-07-2006, 05:02 PM	#5
chevyguy Name: chevyguy Title: Handlin Biznez Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 141	I would recomend an AFE intake over the AirAid. I have heard several stories of the AirAid colapsing. We have never had a problem with the AFEs we've sold. __________________ Randy Hoggard Operations Manager tsperformance.com 270-746-9999

09-07-2006, 05:53 PM	#6
haz-mat19 Name: haz-mat19 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Marietta, ga Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,568	I have to agree, go with the stage one AFE. The pro guard 7 filters the most dirt, which is what you need anyway. My dad has an airaid on his 6.0 and is not happy with it. __________________ '01 2500 xcab,4x4, one of those, a couple of these, oh and that

09-07-2006, 06:32 PM	#7
DPDIESEL Name: DPDIESEL Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pocatello, ID Member`s Gallery Posts: 786	Go stage 1 or some other brand. we have had nothing but trouble with the stage 2's and it is not much of a gain if any.

09-08-2006, 04:10 PM	#10
oil-burner Name: oil-burner Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: york, pa Member`s Gallery Posts: 318	i have a stage II on my 97 with a outerwear, have no problem at all. other than the dam thing sucks so hard that it pulls the insulation out of the hood pad, on a weeks worth of driving i can collect a good sized fur ball from the filter scot

09-11-2006, 03:14 PM	#11
Mark Craig Name: Mark Craig Title: CompetitionDiesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN. Member`s Gallery Posts: 116	DPDIESEL, What kind of issues have you had we have had nothing but great feedback on the Stage II's???? Mark @ DPPI __________________ DIESEL PERFORMANCE PARTS 1-866-455-7788 www.DIESELPERFORMANCEPARTS.COMMBRP SMARTY EDGE AUTO METER DiPRICOL/ISSPRO GAUGES/MOUNTS SUPERCHIPS PREDATOR BULLY DOG AFE INTAKE/EXHAUST TS PERFORMANCE POWERSLOT AIR DOG/RAPTOR FUEL SYSTEMS PML TRANNY PANS/DIFF COVERS ARP FLUIDAMPR STANADYNE INDUSTRIAL INJ

09-11-2006, 03:16 PM	#12
Mark Craig Name: Mark Craig Title: CompetitionDiesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN. Member`s Gallery Posts: 116	zukgod1, The AFE uses a Patended 5 layer media. Each layer has a slightly smaller air hole and they cross stack the media so the air has to turn as it goes thru the layers, does an excellent job of stopping dirt!!! As far as I know all others use 4 or 5 layers of the same media and create a straight thru tunnel in the layers. Mark @ DPPI __________________ DIESEL PERFORMANCE PARTS 1-866-455-7788 www.DIESELPERFORMANCEPARTS.COMMBRP SMARTY EDGE AUTO METER DiPRICOL/ISSPRO GAUGES/MOUNTS SUPERCHIPS PREDATOR BULLY DOG AFE INTAKE/EXHAUST TS PERFORMANCE POWERSLOT AIR DOG/RAPTOR FUEL SYSTEMS PML TRANNY PANS/DIFF COVERS ARP FLUIDAMPR STANADYNE INDUSTRIAL INJ

09-11-2006, 04:29 PM	#14
Wyatt Earp Name: Wyatt Earp Title: Owner / Diesel Geek Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Member`s Gallery Posts: 222	I have a Stage 1 in my VW TDI and a Stage 2 in my CTD. The CTD has the normal element with a prefilter on it. Would recomment prefilters on any of them. All oiled media filters need extra care and attention to be any good. __________________ Wyatt Earp Truck: Paid For: 2002 Dodge RAM CTD with lots of go fast parts! Daily Car: Paid For: 2003 VW Golf GLS TDI go fast for cheap! Diesel Luxury: Not Paid For: 2008 Mercedes-Benz R320 CDI - Loaded, 7spd AWD, 7 seater wagon.

09-13-2006, 10:05 AM	#15
Mark Craig Name: Mark Craig Title: CompetitionDiesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN. Member`s Gallery Posts: 116	DPDIESEL, Ok good info. FYI don't sell the 54/75-10392 to any Ford 6.0 newer than a November 2005 build date and you should be OK! The new Stage II+ 54/75-11022 works on them all and actually out performs the enclosed 54/75-10392 Stage II. Maybe that'll help. If you still need the tubes call and they will get them to you but there is a large back order. Mark @ DPPI __________________ DIESEL PERFORMANCE PARTS 1-866-455-7788 www.DIESELPERFORMANCEPARTS.COMMBRP SMARTY EDGE AUTO METER DiPRICOL/ISSPRO GAUGES/MOUNTS SUPERCHIPS PREDATOR BULLY DOG AFE INTAKE/EXHAUST TS PERFORMANCE POWERSLOT AIR DOG/RAPTOR FUEL SYSTEMS PML TRANNY PANS/DIFF COVERS ARP FLUIDAMPR STANADYNE INDUSTRIAL INJ

10-16-2006, 06:15 PM	#16
revoaggie Name: revoaggie Title: dieselsmoke Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 13	I i just installed a stage II afe with the 7 ply. You can def. hear the air enter. not sure on the power gains but looks nicer than that stock box

10-16-2006, 07:49 PM	#17
cowpunk Name: cowpunk Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lewiston Utah Member`s Gallery Posts: 160	I just put my stage II on a few weeks ago and love it!!! Also it lets the sound a billion times cooler. __________________ I LOVE THE SMELL OF DIESEL IN THE MORNING. IT SMELLS LIKE...VICTORY. 03, HO Cummins, 3500 Quadcab longbed, NV5600, BD short shift with custom SRT-10 shifter, AFE Stage II, Smarty CR, 5 inch exhaust, Optix gauges, KORE Chase system, 35 inch BFG A/T's rollin on 20 inch Weld Commandos, Amsoil'd