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madmikeismad · 03-14-2012, 11:47 PM

I need something to help with squatting while towing. Id also like whatever I choose to be able to act like a sway bar for handling. Supposedly helper springs (the ones that clamp on top of the leaf) can do this. Since I've never ran helpers or bags, and search yields negative results, im asking for your guys' experience.

Thanks.

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Duraskank · 03-14-2012, 11:49 PM

I have Air Lift bags and love em. Not sure on the sway bar part, never heard that.

madmikeismad · 03-15-2012, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Duraskank

I have Air Lift bags and love em. Not sure on the sway bar part, never heard that.

SuperSprings Leaf Spring, SuperSprings Leaf Spring Stabilizer

It says it in the description

Don't worry, I'm not taking it as gospel, but curious to how much of it is true.

lorendiesel5.9 · 03-15-2012, 01:16 AM

Airbags from firestone

Cumminsfever · 03-15-2012, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9

Airbags from firestone

This.

not enoughsmoke · 03-15-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9

Airbags from firestone

2nd

cumminstroked · 03-15-2012, 10:12 AM

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2nd

3rd! The adjustability is nice. With a 15k load I put about 50 psi in mine and it rides and drives better than empty!

ljustice · 03-15-2012, 10:42 AM

Air bags are the only way to go. Can easliy be adjusted for whatever your towing. then leave about 15 pounds in the bags while empty make for a smooth ride.

madmikeismad · 03-15-2012, 10:55 AM

Is there a certain kit? Or just any bags, brackets, and the connecting air line?

Firestone Ride Rite Air Helper Springs 2071 | eBay

Firestone Ride Rite Air Bag Suspension Helper Spring Lift Dodge Ram 2500 2220 | eBay

The Legend · 03-15-2012, 11:53 AM

I would also go with the bags and you can get a basic kit you have to air up or a kit with compressor and gauge or dual so you can set each bag to level it if it is loaded uneven

madmikeismad · 03-15-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Legend

I would also go with the bags and you can get a basic kit you have to air up or a kit with compressor and gauge or dual so you can set each bag to level it if it is loaded uneven

I was thinking just the basic kit since it will only be towing occasionally.

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cumminstroked · 03-15-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by madmikeismad

I was thinking just the basic kit since it will only be towing occasionally.

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I have just the basic kit on mine, it was on there when I bought it, and I don't have any issues at all. I normally just put however much I think I will need in them. If you're going a little distance and you want a little more just pull in at the next truck stop and add it. After having the bags without the compressor on board I don't see a need to even have the compressor for what the price difference is... IMO

lorendiesel5.9 · 03-15-2012, 02:21 PM

There's two different types of kits also. One where the air bag mounts outside the framerail and one where they mount inside the framerail. I personally like the outboard setup cause it gives you more side to side stability. As far as kits with compressors, they're only worthwhile if your always towing. I just grabbed one of those prtable air tanks an throw it in the bed of the truck. Don't tie the bags into the same line either cause it will allow air to transfer from one bag to the other creating an excessive body roll condition when going around corners.

madmikeismad · 03-15-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9

There's two different types of kits also. One where the air bag mounts outside the framerail and one where they mount inside the framerail. I personally like the outboard setup cause it gives you more side to side stability. As far as kits with compressors, they're only worthwhile if your always towing. I just grabbed one of those prtable air tanks an throw it in the bed of the truck. Don't tie the bags into the same line either cause it will allow air to transfer from one bag to the other creating an excessive body roll condition when going around corners.

Damn, didn't think of that. I used to have air shocks that were set up like that.

Air tank is what I was planning on using

apocalypse1812 · 03-15-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9

Airbags from firestone

4th that

madmikeismad · 03-15-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by madmikeismad

Is there a certain kit? Or just any bags, brackets, and the connecting air line?

Firestone Ride Rite Air Helper Springs 2071 | eBay

Firestone Ride Rite Air Bag Suspension Helper Spring Lift Dodge Ram 2500 2220 | eBay

So I guess I'm going with bags. So which of these kits would be best? Or neither. What kits are you guys running?

The Legend · 03-15-2012, 08:47 PM

Firestone is a good name in air bags or Pac Brake makes nice kits too

cumminstroked · 03-15-2012, 10:32 PM

I have a firestone set on mine

madmikeismad · 03-16-2012, 04:02 AM

2220 appears to be the no drill kit. I'm going with that. Any vendors here?

Tobin · 05-29-2012, 06:18 PM

I have PacBrake bags on mine. Took about 30 minutes to install and no drilling. Wouldn't tow more than a jet ski without them.

03-14-2012, 11:47 PM	#1
madmikeismad Name: madmikeismad Title: So mad Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newalla, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 14,347	Bags or helper springs I need something to help with squatting while towing. Id also like whatever I choose to be able to act like a sway bar for handling. Supposedly helper springs (the ones that clamp on top of the leaf) can do this. Since I've never ran helpers or bags, and search yields negative results, im asking for your guys' experience. Thanks. Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk __________________ Mike Hill

03-15-2012, 01:16 AM	#4
lorendiesel5.9 Name: lorendiesel5.9 Title: OG Hunnybadger Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE IA or the lower 48 Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,909	Airbags from firestone __________________ Rest in Peace Dex aka BFD99 6/2/12 97 #12vqclbmafia slipping auto 00 Pete 378 12.7 Detroit 10spd 03 Pete 379 6NZ Caterpillar 18spd

03-15-2012, 10:55 AM	#9
madmikeismad Name: madmikeismad Title: So mad Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newalla, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 14,347	Is there a certain kit? Or just any bags, brackets, and the connecting air line? Firestone Ride Rite Air Helper Springs 2071 \| eBay Firestone Ride Rite Air Bag Suspension Helper Spring Lift Dodge Ram 2500 2220 \| eBay __________________ Mike Hill

03-15-2012, 11:53 AM	#10
The Legend Name: The Legend Title: Diesel power for the mind Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Three Rivers , Michigan Member`s Gallery Posts: 302	I would also go with the bags and you can get a basic kit you have to air up or a kit with compressor and gauge or dual so you can set each bag to level it if it is loaded uneven __________________ Legendary Diesel Performance

03-15-2012, 02:21 PM	#13
lorendiesel5.9 Name: lorendiesel5.9 Title: OG Hunnybadger Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE IA or the lower 48 Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,909	There's two different types of kits also. One where the air bag mounts outside the framerail and one where they mount inside the framerail. I personally like the outboard setup cause it gives you more side to side stability. As far as kits with compressors, they're only worthwhile if your always towing. I just grabbed one of those prtable air tanks an throw it in the bed of the truck. Don't tie the bags into the same line either cause it will allow air to transfer from one bag to the other creating an excessive body roll condition when going around corners. __________________ Rest in Peace Dex aka BFD99 6/2/12 97 #12vqclbmafia slipping auto 00 Pete 378 12.7 Detroit 10spd 03 Pete 379 6NZ Caterpillar 18spd Last edited by lorendiesel5.9; 03-15-2012 at 02:22 PM.

03-14-2012, 11:49 PM	#2
Duraskank Name: Duraskank Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 3	I have Air Lift bags and love em. Not sure on the sway bar part, never heard that.

03-15-2012, 10:42 AM	#8
ljustice Name: ljustice Title: The CAT man Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jefferson City TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 92	Air bags are the only way to go. Can easliy be adjusted for whatever your towing. then leave about 15 pounds in the bags while empty make for a smooth ride.

03-15-2012, 08:47 PM	#17
The Legend Name: The Legend Title: Diesel power for the mind Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Three Rivers , Michigan Member`s Gallery Posts: 302	Firestone is a good name in air bags or Pac Brake makes nice kits too __________________ Legendary Diesel Performance

03-15-2012, 10:32 PM	#18
cumminstroked Name: cumminstroked Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Otwell IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 771	I have a firestone set on mine __________________ James F350 lariat 4x4 2008 6.4l F250SD 4x4 5.9L 12V 6speed with a few aftermarket parts.

03-16-2012, 04:02 AM	#19
madmikeismad Name: madmikeismad Title: So mad Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newalla, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 14,347	2220 appears to be the no drill kit. I'm going with that. Any vendors here? __________________ Mike Hill

05-29-2012, 06:18 PM	#20
Tobin Name: Tobin Title: 5.7 IDI Powaa! Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oviedo, FL Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,506	I have PacBrake bags on mine. Took about 30 minutes to install and no drilling. Wouldn't tow more than a jet ski without them. __________________ 2006 Dodge 2500 QCLB 4x4 Goerend 48RE 1977 F250 RCLB 4x4 "High Boy" 12 valve, 180 pump, 5x.014, S363/S475, Goerend 47RH, NP271, 2007 D60/Sterling 10.5, 40" Toyo MTs