Twins support on 12v - Competition Diesel.Com

oil-burner · 12-15-2007, 08:15 AM

Wondering how the 12v guys are supporting the lower turbo in a twins set up ? Don't trust a 50-lb turbo hanging off of the hot pipe.

scot

*LAmiller* · 12-15-2007, 09:13 AM

On my hot pipe the wastegate pipe serves as the support for the bottom turbo. I have run this setup for 2yrs on a stock manifold and have not had any problems.

Lavon

impmouse · 12-15-2007, 09:14 AM

http://www.sourceautomotive.biz/twin..._turbo_kit.htm

jkretzer · 12-15-2007, 09:32 AM

i was going to build a support bracket for my bottom charger but when i rebuilt my setup for the 62/13 i saw how much the downpipe (if built correctly) does support the top charger. i removed my old hybrid from the manifold and unbolted the hotpipe and the bottom charger didnt move at all, i was surprised and decided then to not bother with a support bracket. i may make one in the furture but i have seen more than a few twin systems that use this same method and have not see a problem yet.

Twisted Shifter · 12-15-2007, 09:34 AM

I have a HT3b and HX40 that Hang from the ATS manifold.

oil-burner · 12-15-2007, 11:05 AM

was looking at the source automotive bracket, can't figure out how it mounts ?

scot

jkretzer · 12-15-2007, 11:11 AM

holds the chargers up by the oil drains, then bolts to the block with existing holes.

Ilikebikes · 12-15-2007, 12:42 PM

When I built mine I wasn't worried about 50lbs of turbo hanging off the hotpipe, but I was worried about the manifold support that kind of weight. Sounds like some people have been fine without a support, but for myself I'd rather be safe than sorry.

For my support it bolts to the big turbo oil drain and then to the bottom of the block where the oil pan bolts in. Works great so far.

joefarmer · 12-15-2007, 09:47 PM

My first setup had a strap from the downpipe to the bellhousing adapter plate. Rip's 12v kit bolts from the motor mount to the bellhousing plate. If you have a STORM block with the second oil drain, you can use the 3 tapped mounting holes around the rear oil drain to support it by the oil drain.

Trapper · 12-15-2007, 11:37 PM

Brandon any pics of your current set-up?

joefarmer · 12-16-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trapper

Brandon any pics of your current set-up?

Kinda. Use the forum email function to email me and I can send the two that I have.

Cummins Express · 12-16-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Shifter

I have a HT3b and HX40 that Hang from the ATS manifold.

same here

Schoust · 12-16-2007, 08:27 AM

Any of you guy's useing stock manifold?

*CC12V* · 12-16-2007, 08:54 AM

Twins have been hanging like that for years. I have a stock 24V manifold on my Third Gen. Hasn't cracked yet but it will I'm sure.

Trapper · 12-16-2007, 09:08 AM

Oil Burner thiers your twins man, CC12V can build you up some nice stuff

I've seen 3 of his set ups and they run pretty good.

Timebomb · 12-16-2007, 10:51 AM

HX35/HT60 hanging as well from the manifold.

TxDiesel007 · 12-16-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oil-burner

Wondering how the 12v guys are supporting the lower turbo in a twins set up ? Don't trust a 50-lb turbo hanging off of the hot pipe.

scot

Rips twins

built a bracket that serves as an oil drain and bolts to the transmission housing and some existing holes in the block and mounts... with a couple of bolts.. works great... but its for an s400

Rick

Dockboy · 12-16-2007, 12:08 PM

I made this for a 3rd gen., but just get creative and make something

Jim Fulmer · 12-16-2007, 01:33 PM

Greg, I want to know were you got that turbo flange, it's too sweet!

Jim

Dockboy · 12-16-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fulmer

Greg, I want to know were you got that turbo flange, it's too sweet!

Jim

Jim,

It's the stock oil drain tube. I built the brace out of 2x2 angle (part on the block) and 1 1/4x1 1/4 ange (leg under turbo). Then I drilled a hole in the 1 1/4 angle with a unibit so the drain tube would fit through but still support the flange. Tacked the flange to the angle, then cut and pieced back together the drain tube to fit the new position.

12-15-2007, 08:15 AM	#1
oil-burner Name: oil-burner Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: york, pa Member`s Gallery Posts: 318	Twins support on 12v Wondering how the 12v guys are supporting the lower turbo in a twins set up ? Don't trust a 50-lb turbo hanging off of the hot pipe. scot

12-15-2007, 09:13 AM	#2
LAmiller Name: LAmiller Title: THE KT-BOUNDARY Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Plain City, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,603	On my hot pipe the wastegate pipe serves as the support for the bottom turbo. I have run this setup for 2yrs on a stock manifold and have not had any problems. Lavon __________________ 04.5 QDLB 4x4 Diesel Power Challenge 2014/2015 Champion, ODSS 6.70 Points Champion 2015/2016 06 RaceCab 4x4 Ulimate Callout Challenge 2016, 2017, 2018 Champion, ODSS Pro Street Points Champion 2016 2016 QDLB 4x4, Firepunk EZLynk. http://www.shop.firepunk.com

12-15-2007, 09:32 AM	#4
jkretzer Name: jkretzer Title: MegaCrank Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hunting, fishing or at work Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,444	i was going to build a support bracket for my bottom charger but when i rebuilt my setup for the 62/13 i saw how much the downpipe (if built correctly) does support the top charger. i removed my old hybrid from the manifold and unbolted the hotpipe and the bottom charger didnt move at all, i was surprised and decided then to not bother with a support bracket. i may make one in the furture but i have seen more than a few twin systems that use this same method and have not see a problem yet. __________________ 98 12v, DTT auto, ADT Motor, Mid-Atlantic Diesel Tuning and Twins. 62/13/s400 56 chevy shortbed restomod, 2wd, cummins 4bt, nv4500.

12-15-2007, 11:11 AM	#7
jkretzer Name: jkretzer Title: MegaCrank Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hunting, fishing or at work Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,444	holds the chargers up by the oil drains, then bolts to the block with existing holes. __________________ 98 12v, DTT auto, ADT Motor, Mid-Atlantic Diesel Tuning and Twins. 62/13/s400 56 chevy shortbed restomod, 2wd, cummins 4bt, nv4500.

12-15-2007, 09:47 PM	#9
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	My first setup had a strap from the downpipe to the bellhousing adapter plate. Rip's 12v kit bolts from the motor mount to the bellhousing plate. If you have a STORM block with the second oil drain, you can use the 3 tapped mounting holes around the rear oil drain to support it by the oil drain. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

12-15-2007, 09:14 AM	#3
impmouse Name: impmouse Title: loaf Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: FISHERS,IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 940	http://www.sourceautomotive.biz/twin..._turbo_kit.htm

12-15-2007, 09:34 AM	#5
Twisted Shifter Name: Twisted Shifter Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,323	I have a HT3b and HX40 that Hang from the ATS manifold.

12-15-2007, 11:05 AM	#6
oil-burner Name: oil-burner Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: york, pa Member`s Gallery Posts: 318	was looking at the source automotive bracket, can't figure out how it mounts ? scot

12-15-2007, 12:42 PM	#8
Ilikebikes Name: Ilikebikes Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Concord, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 242	When I built mine I wasn't worried about 50lbs of turbo hanging off the hotpipe, but I was worried about the manifold support that kind of weight. Sounds like some people have been fine without a support, but for myself I'd rather be safe than sorry. For my support it bolts to the big turbo oil drain and then to the bottom of the block where the oil pan bolts in. Works great so far.

12-15-2007, 11:37 PM	#10
Trapper Name: Trapper Title: Hater Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,878	Brandon any pics of your current set-up? __________________ Work In Progress

12-16-2007, 08:27 AM	#13
Schoust Name: Schoust Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 742	Any of you guy's useing stock manifold? __________________ 07 QC Big Horn 5.9 auto Completely stock so far...

12-16-2007, 08:54 AM	#14
CC12V Name: CC12V Title: CompD CNC Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 861	Twins have been hanging like that for years. I have a stock 24V manifold on my Third Gen. Hasn't cracked yet but it will I'm sure. __________________ http://www.hellmannperformance.com Putting em on the trailer since 2002 361-960-2217

12-16-2007, 09:08 AM	#15
Trapper Name: Trapper Title: Hater Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,878	Oil Burner thiers your twins man, CC12V can build you up some nice stuff I've seen 3 of his set ups and they run pretty good. __________________ Work In Progress

12-16-2007, 10:51 AM	#16
Timebomb Name: Timebomb Title: Bootney Lee Fonsworth Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Swap Meet Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,069	HX35/HT60 hanging as well from the manifold. __________________ 95 12v 4x4 Ex Cab Auto

12-16-2007, 12:08 PM	#18
Dockboy Name: Dockboy Title: Comps BFF Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,341	I made this for a 3rd gen., but just get creative and make something __________________ Greg

12-16-2007, 01:33 PM	#19
Jim Fulmer Name: Jim Fulmer Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Quanah Tx. Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,013	Greg, I want to know were you got that turbo flange, it's too sweet! Jim __________________ 01' 12V, S/B, Q/C, 4WD 98' 12V, S/B, Q/C, 2WD