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01-15-2020, 07:56 AM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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PCS D200 Dash Logger Install
Have all of my sensors run for my PCS D200 Dash Logger and going to begin the wiring process for everything and am just looking for some real world help or tips to make it a smooth process. There is no computer or anything of that nature for factory sensors. It will all be wired by myself, truck is a p-pump 12 valve, I will be running the following analog sensors to the logger
Boost Pressure
Transmission Pressure
Oil Pressure
Water Temperature
Pre CAC Intake Air Temperature
Post CAC Intake Air Temperature
Also running 6 EGT probes to their box included with the D200 professional kit.
Also wanting to run my Tachometer into the logger, but PCS does not offer a harmonic balancer pickup. Is it possible to take an Autometer 5211 pickup, for their diesel monster tach, and wire it into the PCS?
Just looking for advice from anyone who is running one of these on a 12 valve that can give me some tips to make it go smooth; I'm really not a fan of wiring
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01-15-2020, 03:23 PM
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Name: Timbeaux
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Surley they have a pickup that would work somehow?
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01-16-2020, 06:52 AM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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Originally Posted by Timbeaux
Surley they have a pickup that would work somehow?
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From what I have seen on their website, they only offer pickups for manual transmission input shafts and driveshafts. I went ahead and got 2 drive shaft pickups since they were included in the D200 professional kit, going to see if I can make a bracket off the front cover to make it work.
I figured I'd consult CompD for some insight on what had been done before and worked before trying something new.
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1996 Single Cab Long Bed
CG Performance Transmissions built Trans
5x.025s
S464/S483 Compounds
Hamilton 194/220 Cam
13mm Pump
Disturbed Diesel Performance
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01-16-2020, 12:01 PM
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Name: DMDP
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We use this system on our pulling truck. Look up Dakota digital for a tach setup. They have boxes that you can pickup rpm signal from the balancer or flywheel teeth and converts the signal into a coil type signal that gassers use. Then the d200 works with that perfectly. Also gives you the ability to run whatever style analog tach instead of diesel only setups
On any fluctuating pressure sensor like fuel or drive, run an ISSPRO buffer before the sensor. As we have trashed multiple sensors from too much fluctuation. Also makes for a smoother graph on the logs
The EGT unit has 8 inputs. We use the extra 2 for our pre and post Intercooler temps instead of the air sensors they offer Makes more room for other analog inputs.
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01-16-2020, 01:37 PM
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Name: slownoma
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Or cant you use a normally open proximity sensor that picks up every 90deg off the balancer? Youll need tabs at 90deg positions on the balancer.
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01-17-2020, 08:18 AM
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Name: Vincejax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Runaway_Diesel
From what I have seen on their website, they only offer pickups for manual transmission input shafts and driveshafts. I went ahead and got 2 drive shaft pickups since they were included in the D200 professional kit, going to see if I can make a bracket off the front cover to make it work.
I figured I'd consult CompD for some insight on what had been done before and worked before trying something new.
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I run an rpm performance datalogger, but my engine rpm and drivshaft rpm are both just a magnet and pickup. If their shaft pickups are magnetic, can just drill/epoxy a magnet to harmonic balancer and mount the pickup sensor off a bracket to front cover bolts.
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01-17-2020, 09:01 AM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMDP
We use this system on our pulling truck. Look up Dakota digital for a tach setup. They have boxes that you can pickup rpm signal from the balancer or flywheel teeth and converts the signal into a coil type signal that gassers use. Then the d200 works with that perfectly. Also gives you the ability to run whatever style analog tach instead of diesel only setups
On any fluctuating pressure sensor like fuel or drive, run an ISSPRO buffer before the sensor. As we have trashed multiple sensors from too much fluctuation. Also makes for a smoother graph on the logs
The EGT unit has 8 inputs. We use the extra 2 for our pre and post Intercooler temps instead of the air sensors they offer Makes more room for other analog inputs.
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After looking up the Dakota Digital box, I will definitely be getting one of those to make this much simpler. That way I'll be able to just put whatever pickup I want off the balancer.
Also, how did you wire the Intake Air Temp sensors into the EGT unit? Since it is set up for those 2 prong yellow connectors.
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UGLY DUCKLING
1996 Single Cab Long Bed
CG Performance Transmissions built Trans
5x.025s
S464/S483 Compounds
Hamilton 194/220 Cam
13mm Pump
Disturbed Diesel Performance
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01-17-2020, 09:05 AM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincejax
I run an rpm performance datalogger, but my engine rpm and drivshaft rpm are both just a magnet and pickup. If their shaft pickups are magnetic, can just drill/epoxy a magnet to harmonic balancer and mount the pickup sensor off a bracket to front cover bolts.
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Thats more than likely what I will end up doing. I went ahead and got the 2 driveshaft pickups that came with the collar that has magnets in them. I'm hoping I can use the magnets from their collars to drill and epoxy the balancer and driveshaft. If not, is there any certain type of magnet? I figure a stronger magnet would give better and more accurate readings.
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UGLY DUCKLING
1996 Single Cab Long Bed
CG Performance Transmissions built Trans
5x.025s
S464/S483 Compounds
Hamilton 194/220 Cam
13mm Pump
Disturbed Diesel Performance
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01-17-2020, 09:15 AM
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Name: kleann
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My brother has the pcs logger and has tach. Ill ask him what he used. I know he has a common rail fluidamper (has the tone wheel) that he picks the signal up from.
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01-17-2020, 09:52 AM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kleann
My brother has the pcs logger and has tach. Ill ask him what he used. I know he has a common rail fluidamper (has the tone wheel) that he picks the signal up from.
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Is he running a common rail fluidamper on a 12 valve? I always wondered if that would bolt on directly or if you had to modify anything.
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UGLY DUCKLING
1996 Single Cab Long Bed
CG Performance Transmissions built Trans
5x.025s
S464/S483 Compounds
Hamilton 194/220 Cam
13mm Pump
Disturbed Diesel Performance
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01-17-2020, 10:12 AM
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Name: DMDP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Runaway_Diesel
After looking up the Dakota Digital box, I will definitely be getting one of those to make this much simpler. That way I'll be able to just put whatever pickup I want off the balancer.
Also, how did you wire the Intake Air Temp sensors into the EGT unit? Since it is set up for those 2 prong yellow connectors.
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We didnt use the air temp sensors they provide. We just use two more egt probs for air temp
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01-17-2020, 10:18 AM
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Name: DMDP
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On my 3.0 engine I used a Dakota digital box that was programmed to the flywheel tooth count, drilled thru the side of the factory engine adapter and mounted the sensor there. Very clean and out of the way. I now have a blow proof bell housing and a different engine plate that I couldn’t drill thru to read off the flywheel anymore. 4 magnet pickups in balancer now
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01-17-2020, 01:12 PM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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Originally Posted by DMDP
We didnt use the air temp sensors they provide. We just use two more egt probs for air temp
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Darn, i just got my charge pipes all fabbed up and the 3/8 NPT bungs welded in for the IAT Sensors they supply
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UGLY DUCKLING
1996 Single Cab Long Bed
CG Performance Transmissions built Trans
5x.025s
S464/S483 Compounds
Hamilton 194/220 Cam
13mm Pump
Disturbed Diesel Performance
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01-17-2020, 01:16 PM
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Name: Vincejax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Runaway_Diesel
Thats more than likely what I will end up doing. I went ahead and got the 2 driveshaft pickups that came with the collar that has magnets in them. I'm hoping I can use the magnets from their collars to drill and epoxy the balancer and driveshaft. If not, is there any certain type of magnet? I figure a stronger magnet would give better and more accurate readings.
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Mcmaster Carr has permanent magnets of all sizes. But I think the ones it came with will work fine. Make sure you don't drill your balancer too deep. I called Fluidampr and they told me the max depth to drill.
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01-17-2020, 03:05 PM
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Name: Runaway_Diesel
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Originally Posted by Vincejax
Mcmaster Carr has permanent magnets of all sizes. But I think the ones it came with will work fine. Make sure you don't drill your balancer too deep. I called Fluidampr and they told me the max depth to drill.
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You wouldn't happen to have that depth to give me, would you? Save me some time lol
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UGLY DUCKLING
1996 Single Cab Long Bed
CG Performance Transmissions built Trans
5x.025s
S464/S483 Compounds
Hamilton 194/220 Cam
13mm Pump
Disturbed Diesel Performance
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01-17-2020, 07:11 PM
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Name: Vincejax
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Originally Posted by Runaway_Diesel
You wouldn't happen to have that depth to give me, would you? Save me some time lol
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It was a while back I did mine, wouldn't want to guess and tell you the wrong thing. It should just be a quick phone call to get an answer.
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03-25-2020, 08:34 PM
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Name: WPDiesel
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I love our Pcs d200!! If you need any help text me 765-586-zero eight seven 1
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09-02-2020, 10:05 AM
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Name: Rockin S
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMDP
We use this system on our pulling truck. Look up Dakota digital for a tach setup. They have boxes that you can pickup rpm signal from the balancer or flywheel teeth and converts the signal into a coil type signal that gassers use. Then the d200 works with that perfectly. Also gives you the ability to run whatever style analog tach instead of diesel only setups
On any fluctuating pressure sensor like fuel or drive, run an ISSPRO buffer before the sensor. As we have trashed multiple sensors from too much fluctuation. Also makes for a smoother graph on the logs
The EGT unit has 8 inputs. We use the extra 2 for our pre and post Intercooler temps instead of the air sensors they offer Makes more room for other analog inputs.
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Do you happen to have the Part number for the buffer? I cant seem to find it
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