Advertisement |
|
|
|
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above.
You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
|
Dodge Competition and Performance General Dodge Competition and Performance Discussion |
04-09-2018, 12:15 AM
|
#1
|
Name: 12valve95
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Canton,OH
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 780
|
machine shop prep
What is the best way to lift a block with no head attached?
__________________
Jim-cleandiesel88 on Insta
'95 RCLB: in pieces...
1986 RC C30 Dually 12Valve...Coming soon
'17 HANDSHAKER : SOLD
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 01:09 AM
|
#2
|
Name: Begle1
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kihei, Maui
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,134
|
Two head bolts through a chain in the center of the block. Take some care to not crunch the chain against the deck.
Now that I've been doing it that way for the last few years I expect to be told it's all wrong.
__________________
1990 D-250 Regular Cab: Automatic transmission, turkey air horn, wires.
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 01:34 AM
|
#3
|
Name: Mark Nixon
Title: No Savior among the flesh
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brownville, Nebraska
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 8,676
|
Remove the rear lift bracket off the head and use one of the bolts to bolt it to the deck of the block in the middle head bolt hole.
If you don't trust the lift bracket bolt for depth, use a block plate bolt or a motor mount bolt.
I've done this literally hundreds of times, with ZERO bad results.
Mark.
__________________
If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive.
Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 12:44 PM
|
#4
|
Name: 12valve95
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Canton,OH
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 780
|
So with one or two bolts you don't think there is a good risk of pulling the threads out of the block?
To be honest the two bolts thru the chain idea was my first thought but then I said "wait...that's stupid" I guess maybe I am over thinking it and my first instinct was fine.
I do like using the lift plate idea to be easier to hook and unhook.
Any other ideas or is this the way to go?
__________________
Jim-cleandiesel88 on Insta
'95 RCLB: in pieces...
1986 RC C30 Dually 12Valve...Coming soon
'17 HANDSHAKER : SOLD
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 12:56 PM
|
#5
|
Name: NakeDiesel
Title: Smoke'n in the Mud
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hominy, OK
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,116
|
I've used 2 bolts through the top several times and no issues. I also use 4 bolts and my hoist angle device as well.
__________________
2005 Dodge Ram 3500 2x4 QC
1999 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 QC
Coaltrain - 1946 Dodge Power Wagon powered by a little modified 12 valve.
Thanks to my sponsors: CP-Carrillo, Air Dog, Muldoons Diesel Performance, Power Driven Diesel, Diesel Performance Converters
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 01:10 PM
|
#6
|
Name: 12valve95
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Canton,OH
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 780
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NakeDiesel
I've used 2 bolts through the top several times and no issues. I also use 4 bolts and my hoist angle device as well.
|
Like a load leveler? ...That's a good idea.
__________________
Jim-cleandiesel88 on Insta
'95 RCLB: in pieces...
1986 RC C30 Dually 12Valve...Coming soon
'17 HANDSHAKER : SOLD
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 01:22 PM
|
#7
|
Name: Highwayman
Title: bored.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Wacko
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,087
|
Every machine shop I've ever used loads blocks up with a single eye bolt like Mark described.
I don't know about short blocks though.
__________________
97 Dodge 2500 RCLB ( scrapped)
1973 F250 crew (soon to receive new power train)
COMPD:
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcfreak24
Lolzzzzzz fakin haters
|
Last edited by Highwayman; 04-09-2018 at 01:24 PM.
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 09:28 PM
|
#8
|
Name: RacinDuallie
Title: Black Sheep Racing
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Supporting Northeast Diesel Racing
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,369
|
If you can't do yourself without popping a nut get a buddy and pick the phucking block up and put in bed or van or trunk and bring to machine shop? Lol wtf really?
__________________
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 09:47 PM
|
#9
|
Name: Mark Nixon
Title: No Savior among the flesh
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brownville, Nebraska
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 8,676
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RacinDuallie
If you can't do yourself without popping a nut get a buddy and pick the phucking block up and put in bed or van or trunk and bring to machine shop? Lol wtf really?
|
I work alone, ergo I work smarter, not harder.
The pic attached shows the device I move engines and parts with (a Yale electric pallet jack, with a cherry picker boom assembly welded to it), yet it has done so much more than just engines in the few years I have had it.
Note the lifting bracket, hanging off the hook, with the bolt sticking through it.
Mark.
__________________
If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive.
Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 10:17 PM
|
#10
|
Name: Tate
Title: What?
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Airdrie, Alberta
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,419
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12valve95
So with one or two bolts you don't think there is a good risk of pulling the threads out of the block?
To be honest the two bolts thru the chain idea was my first thought but then I said "wait...that's stupid" I guess maybe I am over thinking it and my first instinct was fine.
I do like using the lift plate idea to be easier to hook and unhook.
Any other ideas or is this the way to go?
|
Figure out what the clamp load is on a ARP 625 stud, then compare what a fully loaded cummins weighs, and you'll see you have a very large safety margin before the threads come out of the block. That being said, my first choice is eyebolts. But most people don't have M12 eye bolts laying around, so bolts through the chain is my back up choice.
__________________
'98 3500 2wd, 24v, 5 spd, p-pumped
'98 2500 4wd, 12v, 6 spd, VP'd
'02 VW Jetta, 5 spd.
My p-pump conversion pics
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 11:54 PM
|
#11
|
Name: Highwayman
Title: bored.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Wacko
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,087
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
I work alone, ergo I work smarter, not harder.
The pic attached shows the device I move engines and parts with (a Yale electric pallet jack, with a cherry picker boom assembly welded to it), yet it has done so much more than just engines in the few years I have had it.
Note the lifting bracket, hanging off the hook, with the bolt sticking through it.
Mark.
|
That is genius, actually.
__________________
97 Dodge 2500 RCLB ( scrapped)
1973 F250 crew (soon to receive new power train)
COMPD:
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcfreak24
Lolzzzzzz fakin haters
|
|
|
|
04-10-2018, 05:47 AM
|
#12
|
Name: RacinDuallie
Title: Black Sheep Racing
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Supporting Northeast Diesel Racing
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,369
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
I work alone, ergo I work smarter, not harder.
.
|
I'm just a stubborn tree guy.
__________________
|
|
|
04-10-2018, 06:50 AM
|
#13
|
Name: 12valve95
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Canton,OH
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 780
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
I work alone, ergo I work smarter, not harder.
The pic attached shows the device I move engines and parts with (a Yale electric pallet jack, with a cherry picker boom assembly welded to it), yet it has done so much more than just engines in the few years I have had it.
Note the lifting bracket, hanging off the hook, with the bolt sticking through it.
Mark.
|
This is bad a$$
__________________
Jim-cleandiesel88 on Insta
'95 RCLB: in pieces...
1986 RC C30 Dually 12Valve...Coming soon
'17 HANDSHAKER : SOLD
|
|
|
04-10-2018, 08:11 AM
|
#14
|
Name: Snedge
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Western Pa.
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 18,832
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
Mark.
|
Looks like your kitchen need some work though.
|
|
|
04-10-2018, 08:52 AM
|
#15
|
Name: sootie
Title: .....like a BAWSS
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2013
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 866
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
I work alone, ergo I work smarter, not harder.
The pic attached shows the device I move engines and parts with (a Yale electric pallet jack, with a cherry picker boom assembly welded to it), yet it has done so much more than just engines in the few years I have had it.
Note the lifting bracket, hanging off the hook, with the bolt sticking through it.
Mark.
|
surprise you didnt run a hose to the lift cyl. Wouldn't that be smarter and less harder than pumping that bottle jack?
|
|
|
04-10-2018, 09:17 AM
|
#16
|
Name: RonA
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Liberal ground zero.
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 11,053
|
I've got a neighbor from Easter Island. Old guy, doesn't talk much. Good at moving heavy stuff.
__________________
55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.
|
|
|
04-10-2018, 10:41 AM
|
#17
|
Name: 12valve95
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Canton,OH
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 780
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rona
i've got a neighbor from easter island. Old guy, doesn't talk much. Good at moving heavy stuff.
|
__________________
Jim-cleandiesel88 on Insta
'95 RCLB: in pieces...
1986 RC C30 Dually 12Valve...Coming soon
'17 HANDSHAKER : SOLD
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:33 AM.
|