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triton · 08-23-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave4x4

The room looks great!!

Oh yeah....my truck is startin it 2nd gear. I don't think those electronics that got put it did the trick.

I'm tryin to figure out how I can get to the shop, but my classes are makin it extremely difficult.

that's a good sign the governor solenoid isn't working. A new one could have gone in but, if there was any crap in the fluid, it could have damaged it again.

SuperDave4x4 · 08-23-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by triton

that's a good sign the governor solenoid isn't working. A new one could have gone in but, if there was any crap in the fluid, it could have damaged it again.

Thanks for the heads ups. Its doing it when the truck is warmed up. When we dropped the fluid out it looked fine and even Sticky made a comment about it.

SilverBack76 · 08-24-2009, 08:08 AM

The room is sweet, it's like a pure diesel porn room!

JasonCzerak · 08-26-2009, 08:44 AM

Now, can you "fix" these CR injectors if they fail the testing? And how much?

Big Swole · 09-02-2009, 04:14 PM

He tested all of my injectors Yesterday....Found One that was WAY outta spec for return fuel....
The machine has two tubes that show the Amount of fuel delivered and the Amount of fuel Returned..(Forgive me for now knowing terms and specific details..It's WAY smarter than me) All of them hit just above the 18 mark on delivery and were right around 3 on the return......2-4 is within spec on return.....The one bad one was returing OVER 10!!!
SO , THAT was one of my problems with power!!! We swaped in a good body with my Flux 3.8 tip on the bad one and then tested it again!! We got 18+ on delivery and only 3 on return........So THAT should help a lot!!

Billyram · 09-03-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Swole

He tested all of my injectors Yesterday....Found One that was WAY outta spec for return fuel....
The machine has two tubes that show the Amount of fuel delivered and the Amount of fuel Returned..(Forgive me for now knowing terms and specific details..It's WAY smarter than me) All of them hit just above the 18 mark on delivery and were right around 3 on the return......2-4 is within spec on return.....The one bad one was returing OVER 10!!!
SO , THAT was one of my problems with power!!! We swaped in a good body with my Flux 3.8 tip on the bad one and then tested it again!! We got 18+ on delivery and only 3 on return........So THAT should help a lot!!

It's a good thing Jeff got his test stand set up when he did so your injectors could be tested before dropping them in. "You'd still be wandering where the hp went

"
Billy

JasonCzerak · 09-03-2009, 10:12 AM

But can he "FIX" them once tested?

And did you do a return line flow test before you pulled the sticks? My over all volume between all 6 is 25% of MAX turned in 60 seconds (1.5floz). that doesn't mean one is peeing all over the place and the other 5 are with tight.

bh10 · 09-03-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCzerak

But can he "FIX" them once tested?

And did you do a return line flow test before you pulled the sticks? My over all volume between all 6 is 25% of MAX turned in 60 seconds (1.5floz). that doesn't mean one is peeing all over the place and the other 5 are with tight.

Not to step on toes, but I thought I had some injector issues a couple months ago and I was talking with a couple of diesel shops that have bosch test stand and they said "Common Rail injectors CANNOT be rebuilt, just replace" which was confirmed by the guys at bosch. But, Don M says he rebuilds them so I dont know.

JasonCzerak · 09-03-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bh10

Not to step on toes, but I thought I had some injector issues a couple months ago and I was talking with a couple of diesel shops that have bosch test stand and they said "Common Rail injectors CANNOT be rebuilt, just replace" which was confirmed by the guys at bosch. But, Don M says he rebuilds them so I dont know.

Exactly my point. They can be rebuilt to a point from what I understand.

Big Swole · 09-03-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCzerak

Exactly my point. They can be rebuilt to a point from what I understand.

As far as I know, Jeff can't rebuild them.....Yet!

I'm sure that if theres a way to get the parts and do it, Jeff will find a way somehow!!

Big Swole · 09-03-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Billyram

It's a good thing Jeff got his test stand set up when he did so your injectors could be tested before dropping them in. "You'd still be wandering where the hp went

"
Billy

Man!!! No Kidding!!!

Just one more reason I OWE Jeff way more than I'll ever be able to repay!!!

Thanks again to you Billy for helping me with that regulator!!!

JasonCzerak · 09-03-2009, 03:12 PM

hmmm I wonder if there's a bosch test stand with in reasonable drive in the volvo from Minneapolis. Might for giggles get them "tested" if I don't have to be down for another freaking week (I HATE sharing a ride....)

Chris3445 · 09-03-2009, 04:20 PM

Just to add to this . Common rail injectors contrary to what Bosch claims can be rebuilt. DTech is rebuilding them and we have about 228 running up and down the road. We will in about 3 months be offering HP models for the 5.9.

bh10 · 09-04-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris3445

Just to add to this . Common rail injectors contrary to what Bosch claims can be rebuilt. DTech is rebuilding them and we have about 228 running up and down the road. We will in about 3 months be offering HP models for the 5.9.

Are you sure they're just not replacing either the nozzle and/or body and calling them rebuilt? Also, if you dont mind sharing the cost, I asked b/c 2 places I called that said they "rebuild" them, but the price was more expensive to rebuild than just buy and body/nozzle and replace?

bh10 · 09-04-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonCzerak

hmmm I wonder if there's a bosch test stand with in reasonable drive in the volvo from Minneapolis. Might for giggles get them "tested" if I don't have to be down for another freaking week (I HATE sharing a ride....)

The closest place I found was in Central Missouri, dirving wise the Twin Cities is close to me, but I couldnt find anyone there, which was kind of suprising. After talking with some bosch guys they said there is only a dozen or 2 places with their stands.

Chris3445 · 09-04-2009, 08:35 PM

This are totally rebuilt using new tips, springs, controls valves, and check ball.
Then are then tested with 6 different test. They are totally rebuilt. You can Pm me on the retail pricing.

Chris3445 · 09-04-2009, 08:37 PM

DTech is who I work for and we do the rebuilding.

Jff24Gordn · 09-05-2009, 11:30 PM

Jeff, the fuel room looks sweet.

Big Swole · 09-06-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jff24Gordn

Jeff, the fuel room looks sweet.

Great to meet ya this weekend man!! Hope you and yours had a great trip to GA!!

08-24-2009, 08:08 AM	#23
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08-26-2009, 08:44 AM	#24
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09-02-2009, 04:14 PM	#25
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	He tested all of my injectors Yesterday....Found One that was WAY outta spec for return fuel.... The machine has two tubes that show the Amount of fuel delivered and the Amount of fuel Returned..(Forgive me for now knowing terms and specific details..It's WAY smarter than me) All of them hit just above the 18 mark on delivery and were right around 3 on the return......2-4 is within spec on return.....The one bad one was returing OVER 10!!! SO , THAT was one of my problems with power!!! We swaped in a good body with my Flux 3.8 tip on the bad one and then tested it again!! We got 18+ on delivery and only 3 on return........So THAT should help a lot!! __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

09-03-2009, 10:12 AM	#27
JasonCzerak Name: JasonCzerak Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bella Vista, AR Member`s Gallery Posts: 14,822	But can he "FIX" them once tested? And did you do a return line flow test before you pulled the sticks? My over all volume between all 6 is 25% of MAX turned in 60 seconds (1.5floz). that doesn't mean one is peeing all over the place and the other 5 are with tight. __________________ 2014 Mercedes Benz E63s - 620awhp 2006 Corvette - 1000whp-ish

09-03-2009, 03:12 PM	#32
JasonCzerak Name: JasonCzerak Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bella Vista, AR Member`s Gallery Posts: 14,822	hmmm I wonder if there's a bosch test stand with in reasonable drive in the volvo from Minneapolis. Might for giggles get them "tested" if I don't have to be down for another freaking week (I HATE sharing a ride....) __________________ 2014 Mercedes Benz E63s - 620awhp 2006 Corvette - 1000whp-ish

09-03-2009, 04:20 PM	#33
Chris3445 Name: Chris3445 Title: Air Dog Cowboy Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Snellville Ga Member`s Gallery Posts: 30	Just to add to this . Common rail injectors contrary to what Bosch claims can be rebuilt. DTech is rebuilding them and we have about 228 running up and down the road. We will in about 3 months be offering HP models for the 5.9. __________________ Harold Brown

09-04-2009, 08:35 PM	#36
Chris3445 Name: Chris3445 Title: Air Dog Cowboy Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Snellville Ga Member`s Gallery Posts: 30	This are totally rebuilt using new tips, springs, controls valves, and check ball. Then are then tested with 6 different test. They are totally rebuilt. You can Pm me on the retail pricing. __________________ Harold Brown

09-04-2009, 08:37 PM	#37
Chris3445 Name: Chris3445 Title: Air Dog Cowboy Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Snellville Ga Member`s Gallery Posts: 30	DTech is who I work for and we do the rebuilding. __________________ Harold Brown