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Daniel74 · 12-22-2021, 08:50 AM

Hello, I'm new to diesels and bought a 2007.5 Ram 3500 with 6.7 earlier this year. It is fully deleted and has an unknown tune and did not come with the tuner.

Runs great but i got the dreaded "Service required, See dealer now" message. I tried to delete with higher end code reader but no luck. tried all the variations of the brake, gas pedal reset, no joy. Finally decided i needed to reload a tune to the truck, so i purchased a used smarty jr67 and am waiting for it to arrive. Yes it is blue raced and ME ready. My question is....will it load over the unknown tune? if not, how do i get it back to stock without having to go to the dealer, and does anyone have the ME download they can email me so i have a backup copy should anything happen with the smarty JR?

thanks in advance for any light that can shed on the topic.

4x4dually · 12-22-2021, 08:55 AM

When the overhead says "service required - see dealer" does the instrument cluster say "DPF FULL"?

I have an '09. I'll get that code about every 6 months or so. The ECM times out between flashed due to a missing regen cycle. I just reflash the ECM and it goes away again. I'm guessing that's your issue.

Readers will not clear that code that I'm aware of.

RD TRCTR · 12-23-2021, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel74

Hello, I'm new to diesels and bought a 2007.5 Ram 3500 with 6.7 earlier this year. It is fully deleted and has an unknown tune and did not come with the tuner.

Runs great but i got the dreaded "Service required, See dealer now" message. I tried to delete with higher end code reader but no luck. tried all the variations of the brake, gas pedal reset, no joy. Finally decided i needed to reload a tune to the truck, so i purchased a used smarty jr67 and am waiting for it to arrive. Yes it is blue raced and ME ready. My question is....will it load over the unknown tune? if not, how do i get it back to stock without having to go to the dealer, and does anyone have the ME download they can email me so i have a backup copy should anything happen with the smarty JR?

thanks in advance for any light that can shed on the topic.

Yes, once you flash the ECM, whatever tune that is currently there is gone forever.

A Smarty tune is an ok tune, better can be had with EFILive.

The message that you're receiving is on the overhead console and can be permanently disabled if the tune is written correctly.

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Originally Posted by 4x4dually

When the overhead says "service required - see dealer" does the instrument cluster say "DPF FULL"?

I have an '09. I'll get that code about every 6 months or so. The ECM times out between flashed due to a missing regen cycle. I just reflash the ECM and it goes away again. I'm guessing that's your issue.

Readers will not clear that code that I'm aware of.

Are you using a handheld programmer?

weazel · 12-23-2021, 09:14 AM

Also depending on the mileage on the truck, it may be time to swap out that CCV filter on top of the valve cover..

jasonc · 12-23-2021, 02:13 PM

I've had the service now message on the overhead for as long as I can remember.
Truck isn't in limp mode is it? If not I wouldn't worry about it.

95cummins5.9 · 12-23-2021, 09:22 PM

I have the same, drives me nuts. Keep truckin.

4x4dually · 12-27-2021, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RD TRCTR

Are you using a handheld programmer?

No, I'm using an H&S MiniMutt. It's MiniMaxx software loaded into XRT Pro hardware to save space but still have the display. I doubt there are too many around like it.

Daniel74 · 12-27-2021, 09:32 AM

I bought the smarty JR and it was delivered. I asked several times if it was unlocked and he said yes....got it ....and its vin locked

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I'm returning to him and he said he still has truck so hopefully this works out. He swears the guy who did the tune to the new tuner said it was unlocked.

Trust is hard to come by.

Before i sent it back, i went into the dtc mode to clear any codes and it didnt find any the first time, did it again and it flashed the overhead and cleared it...at least so far. It didn't give me code so i don't know what or how it did it, but its been gone for 4 days.

the seller seems to want to fix the issue with the smarty, so fingers crossed. I still want to have a tuner on hand in case anything happens to the tune or ecm.

sootie · 12-28-2021, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 4x4dually

No, I'm using an H&S MiniMutt. It's MiniMaxx software loaded into XRT Pro hardware to save space but still have the display. I doubt there are too many around like it.

What's the point of that?

The software is the same between Black Maxx/ Mini Maxx/ XRT Pro

Also, the mini maxx itself is smaller than the XRT Pro ...

4x4dually · 12-28-2021, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sootie

Also, the mini maxx itself is smaller than the XRT Pro ...

Are you sure the XRT isn't smaller? That's why I went with it's case but I still wanted the gauges of the maxx.

12-22-2021, 08:50 AM	#1
Daniel74 Name: Daniel74 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2	Unknown tune Hello, I'm new to diesels and bought a 2007.5 Ram 3500 with 6.7 earlier this year. It is fully deleted and has an unknown tune and did not come with the tuner. Runs great but i got the dreaded "Service required, See dealer now" message. I tried to delete with higher end code reader but no luck. tried all the variations of the brake, gas pedal reset, no joy. Finally decided i needed to reload a tune to the truck, so i purchased a used smarty jr67 and am waiting for it to arrive. Yes it is blue raced and ME ready. My question is....will it load over the unknown tune? if not, how do i get it back to stock without having to go to the dealer, and does anyone have the ME download they can email me so i have a backup copy should anything happen with the smarty JR? thanks in advance for any light that can shed on the topic. __________________ 2007.5 Ram 3500 Dually

12-22-2021, 08:55 AM	#2
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	When the overhead says "service required - see dealer" does the instrument cluster say "DPF FULL"? I have an '09. I'll get that code about every 6 months or so. The ECM times out between flashed due to a missing regen cycle. I just reflash the ECM and it goes away again. I'm guessing that's your issue. Readers will not clear that code that I'm aware of. __________________ Jory 2009 4x4 3500 MCLB "There are people far less intelligent than you making a living doing this stuff." - Jeff Mumau

12-23-2021, 09:14 AM	#4
weazel Name: weazel Title: 5th gear killer Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mason, TX Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,252	Also depending on the mileage on the truck, it may be time to swap out that CCV filter on top of the valve cover.. __________________ 88 Chevy Half Ton/ LB7 conversion 08 Chevy 3500HD, efi, 5” exhaust

12-27-2021, 09:32 AM	#8
Daniel74 Name: Daniel74 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2	I bought the smarty JR and it was delivered. I asked several times if it was unlocked and he said yes....got it ....and its vin locked . I'm returning to him and he said he still has truck so hopefully this works out. He swears the guy who did the tune to the new tuner said it was unlocked. Trust is hard to come by. Before i sent it back, i went into the dtc mode to clear any codes and it didnt find any the first time, did it again and it flashed the overhead and cleared it...at least so far. It didn't give me code so i don't know what or how it did it, but its been gone for 4 days. the seller seems to want to fix the issue with the smarty, so fingers crossed. I still want to have a tuner on hand in case anything happens to the tune or ecm. __________________ 2007.5 Ram 3500 Dually

12-23-2021, 02:13 PM	#5
jasonc Name: jasonc Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,412	I've had the service now message on the overhead for as long as I can remember. Truck isn't in limp mode is it? If not I wouldn't worry about it.