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11-25-2012, 10:06 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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dana 60 cad delete
hey looking to get rid of my cad on a budget. Can you get a solid shaft in 30 spline to do away with the cad? thought some place like ems offroad had them? any help is appreciated!
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11-25-2012, 11:36 PM
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Name: chevota84
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Ive seen them and theyre relatively cheap, might look on pirate4x4, they have good info and could point you in the right direction. I just pulled the actuator and slid the collar over on mine and put it back together with the fork behind the collar to hold it. Its held for two years.
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11-26-2012, 01:28 AM
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ZBAG - Zumbrota Bearing Gear - Home Right on their front page advertises the axle. Give them a call and see what they say. Very knowledge people there.
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11-26-2012, 09:31 AM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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ok looked the other day on ems and didnt find it found a thread with a link took me right to it lol 325 for kit isnt bad whish i had the money to do 35 spline
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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11-26-2012, 10:24 AM
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Name: NakeDiesel
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I installed the posi lok on my mud race truck 2 years ago, which locks the cad sleeve in place with a bolt. It has taken quite a few 20psi launches off my trans brake over the last 2 years.
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11-27-2012, 11:28 PM
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Name: Tate
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Peel the vacuum lines off the t-case, and just run a direct line to the CAD actuator to hold it engaged all the time. Thats what I did when I swapped in an NV271. Unless you're looking for the strength upgrade of a solid shaft, I would say thats the easiest route.
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11-28-2012, 03:45 PM
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Name: kipo
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^ according the the Dana salesman when I was inquiring about their lock-out hub kit, the longer shaft is weaker vs the two piece. ??
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11-28-2012, 05:28 PM
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Name: smokin247
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^^ yeah but I don't see that collar being stronger than a 1 piece shaft
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12-23-2012, 09:42 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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so will my front drive shaft turn all the time if I do this?
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98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
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Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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12-23-2012, 09:59 PM
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Name: bosshogg
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Yes. It will be like my 02 with no CAD from factory...Unless you go to locking hubs.
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12-23-2012, 10:19 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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does it wear out your drive shaft pretty fast? you have my dream truck reg cap sport 6 speed!
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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12-24-2012, 12:54 AM
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Name: chevota84
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Shouldn't the driveshaft be spinning either way? I thought that was why it was "shift on the fly", the way I understand it the cad was just to unlock the wheels from each other for less resistance.
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12-24-2012, 02:15 AM
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Name: Tate
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Quote:
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Shouldn't the driveshaft be spinning either way? I thought that was why it was "shift on the fly", the way I understand it the cad was just to unlock the wheels from each other for less resistance.
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That would mean the t-case would be engaged at all times. The NV241's are synchronized to go shift on the fly. NV271's are designed for a live front axle, so they are not synchronized.
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12-24-2012, 06:10 AM
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Quote:
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That would mean the t-case would be engaged at all times. The NV241's are synchronized to go shift on the fly. NV271's are designed for a live front axle, so they are not synchronized.
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Since you're only unlocking the long side axle , wouldn't the short side spin the diff? If it didn't turn the drive line, wouldn't it be turning the spiders constantly?
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12-24-2012, 06:50 AM
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Name: 307diesel
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Quote:
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Since you're only unlocking the long side axle , wouldn't the short side spin the diff? If it didn't turn the drive line, wouldn't it be turning the spiders constantly?
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Think about it like this, it is an open carrier and the half shaft on the passenger side is the easier to turn than the drive shaft at most times. So yes the spiders will be busy.
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12-24-2012, 07:05 AM
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Name: Boostalmighty
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why dont you find a donor dana 60 out of an f350 and just swap everything over from the ball joints out? might as well as long as your doing the cad delete and go full manual
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12-24-2012, 07:37 AM
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Name: bosshogg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverBullet
does it wear out your drive shaft pretty fast? you have my dream truck reg cap sport 6 speed!
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It will most likely be for sale in a month or two.
I rebuilt the front driveshaft once, probably 20K ago, sitting at 173k now.
Swapping the Ford D60 outers is a good route to go, but my truck has 4 wheel ABS. The way I understand it you would have to go with a dynatrac or EMS kit to retain the front ABS.
Good part about no CAD is 4X4 is always ready to go.
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12-24-2012, 10:50 AM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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I thought about switching to lock outs but heard ill just bust them after tuning and a cam swap I'm hoping to be in the 750 hp range
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
Quote:
Originally Posted by dvst8r
Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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12-24-2012, 01:36 PM
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Name: Tate
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Quote:
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why dont you find a donor dana 60 out of an f350 and just swap everything over from the ball joints out? might as well as long as your doing the cad delete and go full manual
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If you have a D60 from an older F-350, you'd be better off just swapping it in. Bigger brakes (at least for the 99 and older trucks), bigger axle shafts, high pinion.
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12-24-2012, 01:38 PM
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Name: CorneliusRox
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Quote:
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If you have a D60 from an older F-350, you'd be better off just swapping it in. Bigger brakes (at least for the 99 and older trucks), bigger axle shafts, high pinion.
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This x2
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