Texas Diesel Shootout September 4th

[VMAX]

Originally Posted by SCHOOL BUS

We are gonna have to work on new classes or something. There were three trucks there capable of tens. You think the 12-17 second guys are gonna show anymore? I don't. Hell I'm not gonna beat my truck up to race pro street trucks. Maybe a daily driven class, an unlimited class and as much as yall hate to see it a bracket class for that aren't competitive with the low 12 high 11 second trucks

2 classes should be plenty if divided right.

Man I got beat up out here for about 5 events. Just kept showing up.

I doubt these three trucks will be showing up everytime or even half the time. Our motor passes were close to most of the faster trucks. We can run motor only, should make for a reliable race truck in that state.

[emiller3]

Originally Posted by gitchesum

Smoking Lightning and the Little Red Cummins Express
YouTube - TDS8 express lightning

Mark Bordelon and jtaylor
YouTube - TDS7 Bordelon Taylor

emiller6 killing a poor Mustang
YouTube - TDS6

Mark Bordelon and jtaylor
YouTube - TDS5 Taylor Lott

Little Red Cummins Express and Mark Bordelon - 1st race, not the last one.
YouTube - TDS5 Express Bordelon Race1

estelly and School Bus
YouTube - TDS3 OHagan and Stelly

Little Red Express - single run
YouTube - TDS2 redexpress

Couple of Megacabs racing. Not sure if they were a part of the shootout.
YouTube - TDS1 megacabs

That was Justins truck racing the mustang.

[gitchesum]

I figured that out after I posted it, but couldn't edit it. I'll fix the youtube comments though.

[ramctd]

Originally Posted by Powerstroke Racer

I'm leaning toward heads up classes as listed above then maybe index racing for the 13 second and slower trucks(aka John)

as long as people continue to show we can make appropriate classes, The track is willing to work with us so getting it done should not be a problem. We'll just have to make sure that everyone is on their toes and things will go smoothly.
I'm ganna be working on some different ideas next week then maybe make a few polls and see what the majority likes.

Just remember we are out here for fun, fighting and arguing over rules will get us no where fast.

I have been on a "be nice to David" period, that may be over. And yes I have been backing up since March. Instead of being in the 11s I have progressed to the 13s. But at least I have been on the track when the truck is running.

My observation is that last night there were 6 trucks capable of 10 and 11 second passes. They all made multiple runs. Hell that is more than I have seen at some "national" events that were able to finish two passes. Maybe the Houston area and local performance shops have an opportunity to get a little national attention.

I know ET Bracket class has been ruled out, and I somewhat agree. But consider every race event, local, regional or national, sponsored by any of the Diesel Race associations always has an ET Bracket class. The reason is simple. No matter what the other classes are the general fan and diesel owner has an opportunity to participate. That is what brings the local guys to the track on a regular basis.

So last night you had 6 trucks willing to run in the competition, and two of us were just making passes with no chance to win. There was probably 12-15 trucks there that would have participated in an ET Bracket class. Even if you have the two class break down mentioned you still would have had the same 6 trucks split into two classes.

You don't have to offer any prize for ET Bracket, just for your Trophy class. I think HRP is one of the few tracks in the country willing to cater to a monthly diesel truck event in the middle of a regular track night. We once again as a diesel truck group showed the fans some fantastic racing and power. Probably a unique situation from a local track perspective.

I don't have a solution, just some of my thoughts. I do know that even with my truck running like hell, I look forward to the first Friday of every month. I really enjoy it, even with the harassment I take from Joe and David.

[Powerstroke Racer]

Good post pops, we would have a very hard time doing an ET class on Friday night, we may be able to do something every other month on a Saturday or Sunday where we come in early and have more time to race.

[ramctd]

Originally Posted by Powerstroke Racer

Good post pops, we would have a very hard time doing an ET class on Friday night, we may be able to do something every other month on a Saturday or Sunday where we come in early and have more time to race.

I agree it would take a little more organization. Sundays would certainly make it easier for me, but not necessary. Maybe we could use a little organization from the DLRA anyway. (That was for the "pops" reference). Every other month or so would be ok, maybe even every three months. Only major issue with bracket is having the guys do runs to determine their dial in. But I have been to HRP where they would have an impromptu Bracket race announced late in the day or night. Didn't matter what you ran, just put in xxx dollars, put a dial in time on the vehicle and go line up. Winner takes all. Seen anywhere from 5 vehicles up. The track would certainly have to agree.

If you show up by 7:30 and make a couple runs by 8:30 you should be able to have a dial in time. From there it is no different than any other class eliminations as far as runs. Start at 9:30pm and no problem finishing. Just have some markers to put dial in times on truck and line up the same way as you are doing. Winners match up low to high ET and go race. A 12 truck field takes 12 total runs in 4 rounds. That is not time restrictive even on a Friday night if done right.

Ok I am through with suggestions. Hope my 6 numbers come up soon and I then I won't care. I won't be messing with the slow pokes like me from that point on. I will be looking for the best parachute kit.

[gitchesum]

Honestly, I get a bigger kick out of watching a 7000# truck beat a F&F import or a obnoxiously loud gasser that makes a lot of tire smoke, revs it to the limiter and runs a 14 second 1/4 pass.

If you got guys that don't want to race because they are scared of getting beat by a faster truck, that's too bad.

Seriously, it costs an extra 10 bucks to race, it's not like your putting up entry money for a competition. Mike, Joe and David decided to put up a prize to make things a little more interesting. I don't think guys like Eric Stelly and a few other drive 3-4 hours to a race for a small, albeit very cool trophy. They come out to race where there is not only a sizable group of other diesel trucks, but a track and crowd that appreciate what we're doing here.

Why not just come out, get your tech card, make your runs, get in line for eliminations and if you get beat in the 1st round, so what. You keep making passes and beat up on the annoying cars or go grab a beer and sit on the sidelines and watch the other guys race.


Why make things so complicated?

[SCHOOL BUS]

Who is making things complicated? I'm just saying Im probably gonna start taking it easy on the ole girl. She started freaking out on me on the way home. I'm ok with the one lap no crap, but I'm not too crazy on the 5 round eliminations. I'll come out and support yall an help anyway I can but I'm taking it easy on the bus til business picks back up and I can fix the **** that breaks

[VMAX]

Originally Posted by gitchesum

Honestly, I get a bigger kick out of watching a 7000# truck beat a F&F import or a obnoxiously loud gasser that makes a lot of tire smoke, revs it to the limiter and runs a 14 second 1/4 pass.

If you got guys that don't want to race because they are scared of getting beat by a faster truck, that's too bad.

Seriously, it costs an extra 10 bucks to race, it's not like your putting up entry money for a competition. Mike, Joe and David decided to put up a prize to make things a little more interesting. I don't think guys like Eric Stelly and a few other drive 3-4 hours to a race for a small, albeit very cool trophy. They come out to race where there is not only a sizable group of other diesel trucks, but a track and crowd that appreciate what we're doing here.

Why not just come out, get your tech card, make your runs, get in line for eliminations and if you get beat in the 1st round, so what. You keep making passes and beat up on the annoying cars or go grab a beer and sit on the sidelines and watch the other guys race.


Why make things so complicated?

Well said! With the $200 prize gone you have a trophy left. I mean how many of the same trophy's does one need to see lined up on a mantel???? Most all of the fast trucks I can think of have one but us. It should just be about fun and bringing in the crowds. I had some of my best Friday nights mostly losing at the final race. Would do it all over again with or without Lil Red........

[ramctd]

Ok, never mind all the complications. I will probably show up no matter what the format. I use to hit the track at least three times a month. When the truck is back to normal I am sure I will again. And the most fun is lining up against a mustang gt, firebird, fart can or such and just blowing them away.

[SCHOOL BUS]

Well said John. No matter what the format, as long as Joe, David, and Michael put on a race, I'll be there. Once again, thanks guys.

[BIGRPOWR]

Originally Posted by SCHOOL BUS

Well said John. No matter what the format, as long as Joe, David, and Michael put on a race, I'll be there. Once again, thanks guys.

congrats scott!! 11's on lockdown buddy, you earned it!

[Timbeaux]

Originally Posted by Powerstroke Racer

Just remember we are out here for fun, fighting and arguing over rules will get us no where fast.

Brilliant.......


Get em Dave!!!! That is the way to go!

[ramctd]

For those that are not familiar with Scott's (Scott Singleton - HRP ASST. DRAG RACE MANAGER, ANNOUNCER/PHOTOGRAPHER, Photojournalist: RPM MAGAZINE) photography site see below. The best race track pictures in the country. He takes these while announcing the races, and having a good time with drivers and fans. Thanks Scott.

Scan through Friday nights pictures for great pics of our trucks and people.

FRIDAY NIGHT STREET RACING 9-4-09 - SSRacingPhotos.com--By Scott Singleton

[SCHOOL BUS]

How about a diesels vs the world format? Grudge match style?

[SCHOOL BUS]

Originally Posted by BIGRPOWR

congrats scott!! 11's on lockdown buddy, you earned it!

Thank you sir! You're the next member for the 11 second club right?

[JTaylor]

Originally Posted by gitchesum

Honestly, I get a bigger kick out of watching a 7000# truck beat a F&F import or a obnoxiously loud gasser that makes a lot of tire smoke, revs it to the limiter and runs a 14 second 1/4 pass.

If you got guys that don't want to race because they are scared of getting beat by a faster truck, that's too bad.

Seriously, it costs an extra 10 bucks to race, it's not like your putting up entry money for a competition. Mike, Joe and David decided to put up a prize to make things a little more interesting. I don't think guys like Eric Stelly and a few other drive 3-4 hours to a race for a small, albeit very cool trophy. They come out to race where there is not only a sizable group of other diesel trucks, but a track and crowd that appreciate what we're doing here.

Why not just come out, get your tech card, make your runs, get in line for eliminations and if you get beat in the 1st round, so what. You keep making passes and beat up on the annoying cars or go grab a beer and sit on the sidelines and watch the other guys race.


Why make things so complicated?

Very good point Curtis! This is definitely not going to stop me from participating at events. I have a blast racing against MDW or Mark Bordelon, even though they are 10 second trucks. I get an excellent show from my view! I'll line up against them any day of the week.

[VMAX]

Originally Posted by ramctd

For those that are not familiar with Scott's (Scott Singleton - HRP ASST. DRAG RACE MANAGER, ANNOUNCER/PHOTOGRAPHER, Photojournalist: RPM MAGAZINE) photography site see below. The best race track pictures in the country. He takes these while announcing the races, and having a good time with drivers and fans. Thanks Scott.

Scan through Friday nights pictures for great pics of our trucks and people.

FRIDAY NIGHT STREET RACING 9-4-09 - SSRacingPhotos.com--By Scott Singleton

Thanks for the link... Awesome photos!

[Cummins Express]

looks like you guys got it hooking good

[VMAX]

Not really Could not hold more than 6-7LBS of boost off the line. Gonna do a brake job and ladder bar adjustment. Might even do dual calipers if we have too. Gonna change out to the taller gear you gave me next week also. The shifts were way too fast, think we are losing some of our peak torque. I believe we did well though being the 1st time at the track.

George look at this link some pics of cummins express and a sweet gas little red express that I believe ran 11.70'S. It was clean and mean.

FRIDAY NIGHT STREET RACING 9-4-09 - SSRacingPhotos.com--By Scott Singleton