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10-17-2010, 03:57 PM
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Name: RonA
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Degree wheel for Cummins.
I will be needing one shortly for setting up the cam in the new motor. If someone sells them or has a link I'd appreciate it.
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10-17-2010, 05:38 PM
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Name: COMP461
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Ron, i'll get you one , if you will build me a hub,
I loaned my hub out , and it never came back
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10-17-2010, 05:55 PM
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Name: mech2161
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I was trying to remember how I did mine. Click on the picture for a larger view.
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10-17-2010, 06:00 PM
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Name: Signature600
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Larger view?? Why? I can already see if from across the room!!
Chris
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10-17-2010, 07:18 PM
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Comes up as a small pic for me, and I'm half blind.
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10-17-2010, 07:59 PM
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Name: Got Smoke?
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I was trying to remember how I did mine. Click on the picture for a larger view.
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How much does that piece cost? Would suck to buy that just to need it once!
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2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II.
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10-17-2010, 08:04 PM
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Honest...before, it was taking up every bit of my 22" monitor
But now, it's small. Looks good too!
Chris
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10-17-2010, 08:04 PM
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Name: mech2161
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There not very expensive. Cheep compared to what could happen as many others have found out.
Look Here.
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10-17-2010, 08:11 PM
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Name: mech2161
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Here are some instructions I found on Summit Racing's web site to degree a cam.
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10-17-2010, 08:57 PM
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Name: Got Smoke?
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There not very expensive. Cheep compared to what could happen as many others have found out.
Look Here.
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Originally Posted by mech2161
Here are some instructions I found on Summit Racing's web site to degree a cam.
Instructions
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Oh wow those aren't very expensive....I was thinking they were.
Thanks a lot Kevin!!
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2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II.
1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater.
2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods
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10-17-2010, 09:05 PM
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Name: srt cummins
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This is the wheel I have been looking for.
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10-17-2010, 10:12 PM
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Name: morkable
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That is some good info there Kevin. I had all the info at one time, but it kinda got filed after I got out of racing gas stuff
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10-17-2010, 10:25 PM
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Name: mech2161
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That is some good info there Kevin. I had all the info at one time, but it kinda got filed after I got out of racing gas stuff
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Oh me to, it's been years since I did even a gasser. It's not as hard as most people think. I had no choice, Greg wouldn't sell me the cam if I didn't degree it. He helped me a lot.
Read the instructions, then read them again. Always double check your numbers. With all the problems I've seen lately people need to do this.
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10-17-2010, 11:20 PM
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Name: srt cummins
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Oh me to, it's been years since I did even a gasser. It's not as hard as most people think. I had no choice, Greg wouldn't sell me the cam if I didn't degree it. He helped me a lot.
Read the instructions, then read them again. Always double check your numbers. With all the problems I've seen lately people need to do this.
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Just curious if the numbers that came with the cam were lost I use the degree wheel to find the right spot? I don't have to send it to the company that made it cause I have been told I need to.
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10-17-2010, 11:32 PM
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Name: RonA
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It looks like an 11" wheel will be about .096" per degree and an 18" wheel would be .156 per degree. Either size would show 1/2 of a degree accuracy. Are there holes in the balancer that it could be mounted to?
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10-18-2010, 12:01 AM
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Name: mech2161
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srt cummins
Just curious if the numbers that came with the cam were lost I use the degree wheel to find the right spot? I don't have to send it to the company that made it cause I have been told I need to.
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If they will tell you what degree the cam should be installed at why would they want it back? Centerline and valve to piston clearance is what you need to look for when you install it.
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Originally Posted by RonA
It looks like an 11" wheel will be about .096" per degree and an 18" wheel would be .156 per degree. Either size would show 1/2 of a degree accuracy. Are there holes in the balancer that it could be mounted to?
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I had to make or modify a hole in the wheel to attach it to the balancer. The degree wheel had three holes and the balancer has four. It came with a couple bushings for the center hole. Just make sure it doesn't slip. Either one should work.
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12-30-2010, 09:27 PM
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Name: kino_fab
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Originally Posted by Hamilton Cams
On the intake mark the degree wheel .010" from max-lift on the opening ramp and on the closing ramp. The exact midpoint between those readings is TDC. For most of our cams we just use intake centerline to verify correct installation.
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So this is how anyone can degree any cam if they do not have a cam card? Does every cam company use the centerline measurement on the cam card? Reason I am asking is that the Cam that is in Lynn's 2wd puller has a used Haisley cam that I think we were told came out of the Detroked truck a few years ago and we do not have a cam card to go by. Thanks for any help.
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01-01-2011, 02:10 AM
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Name: mech2161
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This will give you the center line number. Most manufacturers will give you the center line they recommend the cam to be installed at. Advancing the cam will increase bottom end. Retarding will increase top end. Without knowing where to start you need to check valve to piston clearance.
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01-01-2011, 02:36 PM
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Name: jsf350
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Great info
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01-01-2011, 04:51 PM
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Name: Dazed&Confused
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More info to store. Been a long time since I have done one in V-School.
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