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01-05-2011, 04:40 AM
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Name: EFI Support
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EFILive Cummins Update
As posted in the new Cummins section of our forum here is an update for you all
5.9L Update
Good news to report for the new year.
For those that are following development progress you might know that I am currently in New Zealand working along side Paul finalising the read and reflash process for the 2006+ 5.9L ECM (though I was told today some 2005's might be using this ECM too).
Anyway, the good news is we have got the in house beta software to the point of being able to bench read and reflash at least three of our test ECM's without any issues. Including recovery from purposely failed flashes.
Some people might be aware of the problem these ECM's have where they will loose the VIN and other important data after they have been programmed. This is actually a bug in the ECM itself, it's not the fault of any handheld programmers, not even Cummins (or Tech Authority seems to have a real solution to fix it either). However, we have come up with a reflash method that will restore the ECM's contents (that is usually lost) to a 100% duplicate of what it was prior to the flash.
For the rest of the week we need to test the licensing for the Cummins, try to get the Scantool talking correctly with the ECM and retest many GM controllers because we have made a lot of changes to the firmware and PC software. So if all goes well our beta testers will be tuning some Cummins ECM's by mid to late January. Beta testers, you will get an Email over the next couple of days explaining what is going on with the beta program.
6.7L Update
Once the 5.9L ECM product is released and stable we will move on to the 2007+ 6.7L ECM, up to at least the 2009 model before they put the RSA security in the ECM, that will have to follow later.
We are hoping to offer stable 6.7L ECM reading with the 5.9L release so customers can start sending in reads from 6.7L trucks.
Cheers
Cindy
Last edited by EFI Support; 01-05-2011 at 04:42 AM.
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01-05-2011, 05:33 AM
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Name: carcrafter22
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I'm sure alot of people will be very happy about this.
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01-05-2011, 07:11 AM
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Name: 05_LLY
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Good news indeed!
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01-05-2011, 07:36 AM
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Name: BSwope
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That's good new's, you guy are moving right along with this project!
Patiently waiting....
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01-05-2011, 07:44 AM
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Name: mikmaze
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almost afraid to ask about pricing.......
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01-05-2011, 07:56 AM
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Name: Signature600
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Any idea if you will be able to offer a product for the newer ECM's, like 2010 and newer??
Chris
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01-05-2011, 08:24 AM
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Why??? it was posted in another forum 800(V2) plus 400 Licence), i think was the cost??
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01-05-2011, 08:25 AM
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Name: DIESEL_POWER
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Any idea if you will be able to offer a product for the newer ECM's, like 2010 and newer??
Chris
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03-05 first...
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01-05-2011, 08:34 AM
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Name: Johnyb59
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Originally Posted by EFI Support
I have an update on pricing.
Our licensing model is to change shortly to align with the changes that supporting multiple manufacturers brings. When Cummins support is released customers will be able to purchase the 'Chrysler Cummins Diesel Tuning Add-On' which will cost US$399. There will also be a 'GM Tuning Add-On' product to cover the existing GM support, also priced at US$399.
Existing customers FlashScan V2 cables already include the 'GM Tuning Add-On' because that's all we support right now. New customers will have the option to choose which (or both) tuning support they wish to activate on the FlashScan V2 interface.
To tune a Cummins, you'll need FlashScan V2, currently $399, and the Cummins license $399.
To tune both Cummins and GM, you'll need FlashScan V2 and both licenses.
You'll be able to tune 2 vehicles out of the box, and purchase VIN licenses to tune additonal vehicles for $99.00. Currently FlashScan V2 can hold 221 licenses.
Cheers
Cindy
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For ~ $800 you can tune two(2) cummins.
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01-05-2011, 08:51 AM
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Name: mikmaze
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800 tune two, or 800 + 400 license ? and if it is in fact 03- 05 that is odd, covers 305 and 325 hp years........
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01-05-2011, 09:06 AM
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01-05-2011, 09:19 AM
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Name: Scooter's Roofing
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Originally Posted by mikmaze
800 tune two, or 800 + 400 license ? and if it is in fact 03- 05 that is odd, covers 305 and 325 hp years........
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he was suggesting they do 03-05 first...
and 03-05 use similar ECMs
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that's pretty much all of it
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01-05-2011, 10:02 AM
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Name: Signature600
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Nah, hardly anything else available for the 10-up trucks, might as well have EFI Live
I just want to tune my tranny!
Chris
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01-05-2011, 10:14 AM
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Name: Dodgentwo
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Yea...what he said...What about us 03-04 guys ??????
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01-05-2011, 04:11 PM
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Name: EFI Support
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Originally Posted by mikmaze
800 tune two, or 800 + 400 license ? and if it is in fact 03- 05 that is odd, covers 305 and 325 hp years........
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Manufacturers licenses are a once off fee - $399 for Cummins, and $399 for GM.
Hardware is $399, the Cummins manufacturers license is $399, and that ships with 2 VIN licenses to tune 2 Cummins. If you want to tune additional Cummins vehicles addtional licenses are $99.
If you wanted to tune a GM vehicle, you'd then pay $399 for the GM license, and then need a VIN license.
As for the HP differences between 03-05, that side of things is really irrelevant for us - it's all the ECM and how it's mapped. Take the GM E67 ECM, it's used in vehicles ranging from 2.2L through to 7.0L. It is used in the 6.2L Corvette as well as 2.2/2.4L HHR, as well as some of the hybrids - same ECM just different mapping
Cheers
Cindy
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01-05-2011, 04:23 PM
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Name: SINNER
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Why would a late model (6.7) be out before the one that clearly has much more potential customers (03-05)? Seems like a backwards way to go about it.
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01-05-2011, 04:32 PM
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Name: mikmaze
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guess the 6.7 guys are getting the pitty due to all the money they gotta spend just to take carp off the motor so it will run right, then start adding parts for power......
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'91 JD 1070 dzl
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01-05-2011, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SINNER
Why would a late model (6.7) be out before the one that clearly has much more potential customers (03-05)? Seems like a backwards way to go about it.
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It's CAN - we know CAN and understand CAN, and in terms of delivery time frames can get this done alot faster than SCI; a platform we have no experience with.
Cheers
Cindy
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01-05-2011, 04:52 PM
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Name: Howling
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Thanks for the updates.
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01-05-2011, 04:54 PM
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Name: paulb
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Cindy,
Thanks for being patient with us. Most of us are more used to referring to our trucks by the number of valves or the injection pump it uses. The fact that the computers communicates in different ways has never been something we've payed much attention to. Who knows next week we may have sigs that read "I have a CAN'd Dodge".
Thanks for all of your hard work.
Paul
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