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10-08-2012, 01:11 AM
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Name: SPEEDSHIFT
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Valve Bodies
Obviously I am no tranny expert, but what is the actual difference between a name brand VB verses just throwing in a Transgo Shift Kit?
I hear the name brand companies "flow" their VBs.
Is their any risk in mis-matching the brand of converter and VB?
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10-08-2012, 02:36 AM
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Subscribed.
One thing I do know is most if not all of the name brand companies cut the VB to where it circulates fluid in park.
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10-08-2012, 08:10 AM
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Name: bigblk
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Can do with transform as well
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10-08-2012, 08:12 AM
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Name: zstroken
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Build your own trans and buy the VB from Goerend. The phone support and knowledge he has is worth it, plus you get a great VB.
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10-08-2012, 08:12 AM
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Name: bigblk
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Some builders also machine the surfaces flat as to get best possible seal to plate... I have a transgo kit instruction sheet with Dave G' personal setup notes on it some where's in my tool box...
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10-08-2012, 08:13 AM
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IIRC correctly Goerend tests all of his VB's.
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10-08-2012, 02:18 PM
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Name: SPEEDSHIFT
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Dan that's what I hear as well, also that I should use his converter as they are matched. Only problem is I already have a transtar S5 converter which is their biggest and baddest converter.
Bigblk could you pm me that info? I sure would appreciate it.
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10-08-2012, 02:38 PM
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Name: ClamDigger4
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I would like to hear more info to backup the reason for matching converters to valvebodies.
from phone
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10-08-2012, 02:53 PM
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Name: Hurley
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Transgo kits come with a specific set of springs & valves... I would go so far as to say that a transmission company with some age to it would offer more 'specific' parts such as valves, springs, separator plates, and valve body modifications.
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10-12-2012, 12:49 PM
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I was told by Goerend today, that one of the main differences in their VBs is they hold more pressure in your lower gears, compaired to a shift kit.
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10-13-2012, 09:49 AM
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Name: T-MAN
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Gorends constant pressure valve body is second to none .full line pressure no matter where your foot is on the throttle.T-man
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10-13-2012, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-MAN
Gorends constant pressure valve body is second to none .full line pressure no matter where your foot is on the throttle.T-man
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Great 1st post!!!!!! Full of win!!!
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10-13-2012, 12:32 PM
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full line pressure no matter where your foot is on the throttle.T-man
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You don't say. That's what constant pressure means isn't it?
Ryan
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10-13-2012, 01:18 PM
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Name: Kick Start
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Why would you think you think you have to match vb with converter?
I have an ats converter with a Morrison vb. Everything works as it should.
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10-13-2012, 01:24 PM
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I wish I would have bought his VB this summer when I had the monies. 
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10-13-2012, 09:33 PM
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Name: T-MAN
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Quote:
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You don't say. That's what constant pressure means isn't it?
Ryan
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yes Ryan that is what it means , Do you know why that may be important ?Thanks tman
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10-14-2012, 06:40 AM
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Name: SPEEDSHIFT
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Why would you think you think you have to match vb with converter?
I have an ats converter with a Morrison vb. Everything works as it should. |
True stall speed.
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10-14-2012, 06:45 AM
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Name: zstroken
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True stall speed.
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Stall speed is based on HP/TQ range and the amount of it.
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10-14-2012, 06:55 AM
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Name: SPEEDSHIFT
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I was told, there are several ways to accomplish desired stall speed. Some may say -400 stall but only get -200, that will effect how the VB does its job. When they are matched, you are 100% on how everything will work once it is in the truck, and everything is on the same page.
This could be complete BS, but it makes sense to me.
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11-10-2012, 04:24 PM
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Name: onefour
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Quote:
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Stall speed is based on HP/TQ range and the amount of it.
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And fin angle/tolerances.
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