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J-Pipes · 10-08-2017, 02:04 PM

Wouldn't worry about a tube chassis holding up, all the top end pulling trucks are full yube chassis. Thinking Barker Machine or something like that is a very common chassis supplier for the pulling trucks. Just get the weight setup like this for the pull, that's what that class does when going into reverse!

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*Bodacious* · 10-08-2017, 03:45 PM

^^That is a sweet looking truck.^^ ...and seriously, why not??

okie18 · 10-08-2017, 10:20 PM

I don't see the Toyota hubs holding up when they actually have some traction with the power you're trying to put down. They're tough but not that tough.

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J-Pipes · 10-09-2017, 05:40 AM

I don't think he's intending on putting full power to the front end, thought he was running some sort of "open" transfer case. Sort of AWD kinda in theory.

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*Bodacious* · 10-09-2017, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Pipes

I don't think he's intending on putting full power to the front end, thought he was running some sort of "open" transfer case. Sort of AWD kinda in theory.

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Yep, it is a clutch that drives the front diff. Surprisingly, those hubs will hold more than a man would think. They have been on the front of Bodacious it's whole life.

The pulling package gets the solid 60 front.

sootie · 10-09-2017, 07:39 AM

I hope you actually try pulling in advance of UCC. I think your mind will be blown when parts are subjected to torque and traction. Totally different ball game than mud drags .

J-Pipes · 10-09-2017, 08:01 AM

He's not running the IFS setup to pull though, already said it'll swap in a solid D60 for that.

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*Bodacious* · 10-09-2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Pipes

He's not running the IFS setup to pull though, already said it'll swap in a solid D60 for that.

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Hey J-Pipes, at least we got folks reading. ...listening, yeah that peaceful image big papa posted/ Snedge reposted over on the other thread is looking better by the minute.

J-Pipes · 10-09-2017, 01:32 PM

Yeah, I don't know that the ifs setup will hold up or not, but how you've been describing the intent so far, I think it's got a chance. But I do really like the idea of going as light as possible! A chassis that's light and stiff, with a sort of modular suspension packages. That is a pretty picture too!

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okie18 · 10-09-2017, 07:10 PM

I missed the d60 part for pulling. Wouldn't worry about the yota parts for the drags with the clutched to case then.

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*Bodacious* · 10-11-2017, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by j.fondler

this right here ^^^^

the trucks that finished like 2-7 last year were consistent in all 3 events but didn't win any of them.

1500 hp, 9.80 1/4, 280 ft pull. if you can do that, you'll "qualify" for next year and probably finish top 10 in the actual UCC.

and sure, everyone is out to win the damn thing, but no offense to you, Bodacious, but if a small shop like yours just finishes top 10, thats a win IMO.

Just wanted you all to know I have been listening. I just about have my engine build done in my head.

If it were not for possibly needing the sturdiness of the top end of the sleeved 6.7 I would just use a 12 valve block I have here.

I would also like to stretch the bore out as far as I can. Anyone care to share the max bore size of a sleeved 6.7?

Stock 5.9 crank. I could probably use the rods out of the PDD assembly and have some custom pistons cut.

Using the sponsored Water Warhead. With what needs done, I trust a fella right down the road from me. I will probably do as mentioned and just polish the ports up a bit.

Need to move more weight back and down in the chassis. I think I will fab up a stainless header and mount the big garret as a sinlge.

This should move us pretty close to 12-1400HP. We have the Mt. Diesel pump that should fuel pretty decent.

I want to street drive this thing all over the place.

9724VF350 · 10-11-2017, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodacious

If it were not for possibly needing the sturdiness of the top end of the sleeved 6.7 I would just use a 12 valve block I have here.

I would also like to stretch the bore out as far as I can. Anyone care to share the max bore size of a sleeved 6.7?.

Ain't no way I would take a sleeved/deck plated oem block over the solid block you have for sale.

Even solid, with a cooled head you can drive it far more than you would imagine.

*Bodacious* · 10-11-2017, 09:44 PM

It won't be deck plated. Just sleeved. I've heard the 12 valve block may hold to 1200 HP. I know I can at least spray this thing enough to make that power.

Industrial was making some major numbers with a sleeved 6.7.

9724VF350 · 10-12-2017, 05:51 AM

What strength advantage does a sleeved, non-deck plated oem block have over a solid block?

*Bodacious* · 10-14-2017, 12:25 AM

Absolutely none whatsoever.

*Bodacious* · 10-14-2017, 12:39 AM

Not making excuses here, but you can probably tell by my post count I have been resting.

I did manage to get the IFS out of the wife's truck, stripped, and under the "Transformer Shop Truck".

I've been the reverse direction, Solid into IFS, but, had no reason to ever do the opposite.

It is waaaayyy easier to IFS where the solid axle was. If I wanted hack job this thing I could get in mounted in less than an hour. lol

The fella I bought this from, Dave Allen from Ireland,WV, was nice enough to let me bring the entire cutoff home to study the mounting points and geometry.

Starting to get 'er down there where I am happy. Just a little bit further and the factory '92 trans cross member will be on the ground.

zstroken · 10-14-2017, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodacious

Absolutely none whatsoever.

Actually it does have an advantage, as the sleeves are better quality metal than the block itself.

J-Pipes · 10-14-2017, 07:53 AM

But if wanting to go short stroke big bore, wouldn't the solid block be better? I mean couldn't you go bigger with the cylinders without water passages to worry about? I'd think you'd still sleeve it at that point anyway though.

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*Bodacious* · 10-14-2017, 08:42 AM

Definitely want to street drive without any overheating. I am pretty sure you can take this Hamilton block to 4.35" bore no problem.

Would still like to hear from someone what the max bore they would go on a sleeved 6.7 would be.

mfsuper90 · 10-14-2017, 11:40 AM

Dt466 uses a 4.3 bore

10-08-2017, 02:04 PM	#81
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Wouldn't worry about a tube chassis holding up, all the top end pulling trucks are full yube chassis. Thinking Barker Machine or something like that is a very common chassis supplier for the pulling trucks. Just get the weight setup like this for the pull, that's what that class does when going into reverse! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

10-08-2017, 03:45 PM	#82
Bodacious Name: Bodacious Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Weston, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,177	^^That is a sweet looking truck.^^ ...and seriously, why not?? __________________ "Careful who you argue with on the internet. Others might not know they are idiots."

10-08-2017, 10:20 PM	#83
okie18 Name: okie18 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Leon, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 996	I don't see the Toyota hubs holding up when they actually have some traction with the power you're trying to put down. They're tough but not that tough. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 2500 Longhorn HPP tuned 04 2500 RCLB 4x4 Smarty UDC, AD 150, Fletcher Cam & Springs, Steed Speed, Thuren, Exergy 60%, Firepunk Comp 3, Anarchy Dual Cp3's, 467 fmw, 861/1427 930 on spray

10-09-2017, 05:40 AM	#84
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	I don't think he's intending on putting full power to the front end, thought he was running some sort of "open" transfer case. Sort of AWD kinda in theory. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

10-09-2017, 08:01 AM	#87
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	He's not running the IFS setup to pull though, already said it'll swap in a solid D60 for that. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

10-09-2017, 07:39 AM	#86
sootie Name: sootie Title: .....like a BAWSS Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 866	I hope you actually try pulling in advance of UCC. I think your mind will be blown when parts are subjected to torque and traction. Totally different ball game than mud drags .

10-09-2017, 01:32 PM	#89
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Yeah, I don't know that the ifs setup will hold up or not, but how you've been describing the intent so far, I think it's got a chance. But I do really like the idea of going as light as possible! A chassis that's light and stiff, with a sort of modular suspension packages. That is a pretty picture too! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

10-09-2017, 07:10 PM	#90
okie18 Name: okie18 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Leon, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 996	I missed the d60 part for pulling. Wouldn't worry about the yota parts for the drags with the clutched to case then. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 2500 Longhorn HPP tuned 04 2500 RCLB 4x4 Smarty UDC, AD 150, Fletcher Cam & Springs, Steed Speed, Thuren, Exergy 60%, Firepunk Comp 3, Anarchy Dual Cp3's, 467 fmw, 861/1427 930 on spray

10-11-2017, 09:44 PM	#93
Bodacious Name: Bodacious Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Weston, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,177	It won't be deck plated. Just sleeved. I've heard the 12 valve block may hold to 1200 HP. I know I can at least spray this thing enough to make that power. Industrial was making some major numbers with a sleeved 6.7. __________________ "Careful who you argue with on the internet. Others might not know they are idiots."

10-12-2017, 05:51 AM	#94
9724VF350 Name: 9724VF350 Title: Tractor Guy Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,784	What strength advantage does a sleeved, non-deck plated oem block have over a solid block? __________________ 97 F350 4X4 CC Dually 5spd 24V 913 S300/HT3B Ranch Hand. Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now, 13mm, S475 Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.

10-14-2017, 12:25 AM	#95
Bodacious Name: Bodacious Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Weston, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,177	Absolutely none whatsoever. __________________ "Careful who you argue with on the internet. Others might not know they are idiots."

10-14-2017, 12:39 AM	#96
Bodacious Name: Bodacious Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Weston, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,177	Not making excuses here, but you can probably tell by my post count I have been resting. I did manage to get the IFS out of the wife's truck, stripped, and under the "Transformer Shop Truck". I've been the reverse direction, Solid into IFS, but, had no reason to ever do the opposite. It is waaaayyy easier to IFS where the solid axle was. If I wanted hack job this thing I could get in mounted in less than an hour. lol The fella I bought this from, Dave Allen from Ireland,WV, was nice enough to let me bring the entire cutoff home to study the mounting points and geometry. Starting to get 'er down there where I am happy. Just a little bit further and the factory '92 trans cross member will be on the ground. __________________ "Careful who you argue with on the internet. Others might not know they are idiots."

10-14-2017, 07:53 AM	#98
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	But if wanting to go short stroke big bore, wouldn't the solid block be better? I mean couldn't you go bigger with the cylinders without water passages to worry about? I'd think you'd still sleeve it at that point anyway though. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.

10-14-2017, 08:42 AM	#99
Bodacious Name: Bodacious Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Weston, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,177	Definitely want to street drive without any overheating. I am pretty sure you can take this Hamilton block to 4.35" bore no problem. Would still like to hear from someone what the max bore they would go on a sleeved 6.7 would be. __________________ "Careful who you argue with on the internet. Others might not know they are idiots."

10-14-2017, 11:40 AM	#100
mfsuper90 Name: mfsuper90 Title: 300ft is all I need Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Southeast ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 769	Dt466 uses a 4.3 bore __________________ ’82 300D benz Bosch MW turned up, HX30, W/A Intercooler MF Super 90 various odds and ends done. Farm stocker MF 98 3-71 screaming jimmy. Needs N90's. Another farm stock '14 Ram Anarchy EFI, G56