Bluechip FMS upgraded to Redline vs factory Redline vs Redline unlmtd. - Competition Diesel.Com

CumminsCrazed · 10-12-2014, 03:13 PM

Hey guys, im a bout to seal the deal on a Bluechip FMS box, and i will be upgrading it to the Redline immediately after purchase.

What im wondering is if there is any differences between upgrading an FMS to a redline vs a factory bought redline. I wanna make sure im getting everything they factory redline would have given me.

Also, whats the diff between the factory redline and the redline unlimited. My truck is built to rev way beyond 4000rpm and ive read some guys are getting 4500+ out of their redlines, is that a factory redline or a redline unlimited that allows over 4000 rpm. Also, if its a redline unlimited is that something i can send the box in for to be enabled or how does a guy go about getting the redline unlimited.

thanks guys, hope i can get some solid answers here.

diesel_importer · 10-12-2014, 03:43 PM

Are you racing or pulling?

CumminsCrazed · 10-12-2014, 03:50 PM

both, but with trans and clutch set up more apt to pull than race, but it will be doing both

99GreenCummins · 10-12-2014, 04:01 PM

Following for info.

CumminsCrazed · 10-12-2014, 11:03 PM

anyone?

89f150 · 10-12-2014, 11:14 PM

Are they still doing the programming part? I thought the just were selling vp44s

dmigz57 · 10-13-2014, 12:05 AM

I knew a local guy that ran a redline unlimited and was able to spin it upwards of 4k+. Was in a pull truck. If you have the supporting mods they should be able to turn high rpm

kjpcummins · 10-13-2014, 04:21 AM

Why not just try the fms box first. Going to the redline with your stock turbo will net you nothing. Imo i wouldnt upgrade it and ive had both. The only thing i notice is the fms shuts off in 6th gear at 3200rpm but pulls past that in every other gear. Call bluechip about upgrading and you will get all the info you need.

CumminsCrazed · 10-13-2014, 10:51 AM

I have a 64mm turbo. Also this is the reply I got from bluechip. Def no the easy/cheap upgrade everyone has said it is.

kjpcummins · 10-13-2014, 11:04 AM

Even with a 64 i wouldnt upgrade. Depending on injectors the redline always performed best with lower fueling % that the fms offers. If you really think you need the rpm go for it its just $700 but you should try the fms first imo. The redline unlimited was horrible on the street even turned down. The fms seems to have more progressive fueling where the redline just goes max fuel.

CumminsCrazed · 10-13-2014, 11:08 AM

Hmmm. Ok. Does that upgrade sound expensive though?

kjpcummins · 10-13-2014, 11:09 AM

the cost of the box and upgrade would pay for a ppump swap

CumminsCrazed · 10-13-2014, 11:16 AM

I'm buying box used. Whole cost with upgrade would be around a grand

CumminsCrazed · 10-13-2014, 11:16 AM

Thing is. What would net me more power. My current edge drag comp setup or the fms.

matty169 · 10-13-2014, 07:18 PM

I have a red line you can try if your trustworthy.

CumminsCrazed · 10-14-2014, 11:59 AM

Matty. Was your redline bought as a redline or upgraded from a fms.

matty169 · 10-14-2014, 08:08 PM

Bought as redline I think. Its red............lol......
I never used it, just made sure it worked.

CumminsCrazed · 10-14-2014, 09:36 PM

You at all Interested in selling? Tom at bluechip was pretty rude to me tonight so I really don't feel like giving them any money.

matty169 · 10-15-2014, 02:48 AM

Not really........but make an offer. Its just sitting on a desk at the shop for the last 1.5 years.........Or you can try it and see if its your cup-o-tea........THEN make offer.

sledshaker · 10-15-2014, 09:05 PM

I think I read on their website they are no longer making the redline box.

10-12-2014, 03:13 PM	#1
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	Bluechip FMS upgraded to Redline vs factory Redline vs Redline unlmtd. Hey guys, im a bout to seal the deal on a Bluechip FMS box, and i will be upgrading it to the Redline immediately after purchase. What im wondering is if there is any differences between upgrading an FMS to a redline vs a factory bought redline. I wanna make sure im getting everything they factory redline would have given me. Also, whats the diff between the factory redline and the redline unlimited. My truck is built to rev way beyond 4000rpm and ive read some guys are getting 4500+ out of their redlines, is that a factory redline or a redline unlimited that allows over 4000 rpm. Also, if its a redline unlimited is that something i can send the box in for to be enabled or how does a guy go about getting the redline unlimited. thanks guys, hope i can get some solid answers here. __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-12-2014, 03:43 PM	#2
diesel_importer Name: diesel_importer Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fairfield,TX Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,501	Are you racing or pulling? __________________ 01 QCSB 2WD AUTO: Redline/Smarty, Monster VP, 6x.013, S467 FMW, Goerend Trans, Caltracs. Fuel only - 11.85 @ 114, 50 Shot - 11.58 @ 116 w/ 1.69 60'

10-12-2014, 03:50 PM	#3
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	both, but with trans and clutch set up more apt to pull than race, but it will be doing both __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-12-2014, 04:01 PM	#4
99GreenCummins Name: 99GreenCummins Title: That guy.... Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Marietta, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,387	Following for info. __________________ Todd Some farm trucks 2014 Ram 3500 19.5s, aisin 1999 Ram 2500,6 spd, typical mods

10-12-2014, 11:03 PM	#5
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	anyone? __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-12-2014, 11:14 PM	#6
89f150 Name: 89f150 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 316	Are they still doing the programming part? I thought the just were selling vp44s __________________ 2000 dodge 150s 62/14 full billet trans

10-13-2014, 12:05 AM	#7
dmigz57 Name: dmigz57 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central-Cali Member`s Gallery Posts: 661	I knew a local guy that ran a redline unlimited and was able to spin it upwards of 4k+. Was in a pull truck. If you have the supporting mods they should be able to turn high rpm __________________ 99 Dodge Ram "Top Gun" West Coast LPS

10-13-2014, 04:21 AM	#8
kjpcummins Name: kjpcummins Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: leon, ia Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,322	Why not just try the fms box first. Going to the redline with your stock turbo will net you nothing. Imo i wouldnt upgrade it and ive had both. The only thing i notice is the fms shuts off in 6th gear at 3200rpm but pulls past that in every other gear. Call bluechip about upgrading and you will get all the info you need. __________________ 1997 2500 4x4 5spd 2011 2500 4x4 6spd

10-13-2014, 11:04 AM	#10
kjpcummins Name: kjpcummins Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: leon, ia Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,322	Even with a 64 i wouldnt upgrade. Depending on injectors the redline always performed best with lower fueling % that the fms offers. If you really think you need the rpm go for it its just $700 but you should try the fms first imo. The redline unlimited was horrible on the street even turned down. The fms seems to have more progressive fueling where the redline just goes max fuel. __________________ 1997 2500 4x4 5spd 2011 2500 4x4 6spd

10-13-2014, 11:08 AM	#11
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	Hmmm. Ok. Does that upgrade sound expensive though? __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-13-2014, 11:09 AM	#12
kjpcummins Name: kjpcummins Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: leon, ia Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,322	the cost of the box and upgrade would pay for a ppump swap __________________ 1997 2500 4x4 5spd 2011 2500 4x4 6spd

10-13-2014, 11:16 AM	#13
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	I'm buying box used. Whole cost with upgrade would be around a grand __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-13-2014, 07:18 PM	#15
matty169 Name: matty169 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Green Bay, Wi Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,542	I have a red line you can try if your trustworthy. __________________ 2002 Dodge 2500 2WD Quad cab, Silver Bullet 64, Helix2 cam, springs, studs, water/meth, blah,blah,blah TRANSMISSION BY FIREPUNK CONVERTER BY DPC Edge drag comp

10-14-2014, 11:59 AM	#16
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	Matty. Was your redline bought as a redline or upgraded from a fms. __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-14-2014, 08:08 PM	#17
matty169 Name: matty169 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Green Bay, Wi Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,542	Bought as redline I think. Its red............lol...... I never used it, just made sure it worked. __________________ 2002 Dodge 2500 2WD Quad cab, Silver Bullet 64, Helix2 cam, springs, studs, water/meth, blah,blah,blah TRANSMISSION BY FIREPUNK CONVERTER BY DPC Edge drag comp

10-14-2014, 09:36 PM	#18
CumminsCrazed Name: CumminsCrazed Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mason City, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 264	You at all Interested in selling? Tom at bluechip was pretty rude to me tonight so I really don't feel like giving them any money. __________________ Silver 2001.5 Ram 2500 Cummins H.O. 6 spd. Silencer ring MIA, Muffler/Res. MIA, FASS 150/95 GPH, Boost Elbow, Edge Comp, AutoMeter Boost, Pyro and Fuel Pressure gauges, Amsoil Nanofiber 4510 Air intake filter, Kenwood KDC-MP425 Head Unit, Kenwood speakers front and rear

10-15-2014, 02:48 AM	#19
matty169 Name: matty169 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Green Bay, Wi Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,542	Not really........but make an offer. Its just sitting on a desk at the shop for the last 1.5 years.........Or you can try it and see if its your cup-o-tea........THEN make offer. __________________ 2002 Dodge 2500 2WD Quad cab, Silver Bullet 64, Helix2 cam, springs, studs, water/meth, blah,blah,blah TRANSMISSION BY FIREPUNK CONVERTER BY DPC Edge drag comp

10-15-2014, 09:05 PM	#20
sledshaker Name: sledshaker Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Millersburg, MO Member`s Gallery Posts: 920	I think I read on their website they are no longer making the redline box. __________________ Driving everything with wheels, and some things without.