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ComnRailPwr · 05-03-2013, 04:53 PM

This with 03/04 apps or 04.5 up pedal mounted apps?

2007 5.9 · 05-03-2013, 05:59 PM

04.5 APPS under dash.

HeTheAethyr! · 05-04-2013, 10:01 AM

it communicates.

STROKETHISF350 · 05-04-2013, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeTheAethyr!

Thanks for posting the video Les, this is the repinned 03-05 harness running a 06 ecm. STROKETHISF350 - your posistion is the same as mine this is the harness ill be using. Will be verifying EFILIVE communicates this weekend

Let me know what you find, my guess is it should be very easy to make work with the painless harness considering its already set up to run the 04.5 apps pedal

HeTheAethyr! · 05-04-2013, 10:13 AM

There are 20+ pins locations that where moved, I add sensor grounds and removed the 14 pin intermediate connector on the OEM 05 harness. It starts, it runs, and we did a small EFILIVE log last night. It would be just as "simple" if you repined your painless.

HeTheAethyr! · 05-04-2013, 10:15 AM

The apps pedal was "national back order" at Chrysler but I received delivery within 5 days. Go figure

outlaw99 · 05-05-2013, 02:37 PM

get the dash figured out?

ComnRailPwr · 05-05-2013, 03:08 PM

Do you have a better pin removal tool than that junk plastic ones. When I repinned my original harness I went through 20 of those. That project got scrapped due to some unrelated modifications and I figured sci would be out by the time I was done. Fast forward a year and its still not here. I just got mine running with 06 electronics and that was much easier. My only gripe is my truck does not have connector c130 like I believe 04.5 up has so it was slightly more difficult to locate circuits. End rant.

biggy238 · 05-05-2013, 04:29 PM

Dominant node meaning it is Protocol initiator?
We add the terminating resistors to cat bypass harnesses to allow J1939 on the bench. Not A big deal. Good information to hear though.
I had a friend asking these very questions this morning.
So to clarify, the 06 ecm is replacing the 03 outright with just a Harness Repin and throttle sensor added?

From my Not-So-Smart phone

mikmaze · 05-05-2013, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2007 5.9

04.5 APPS under dash.

not quite, on the 04.5 trucks they can be in any of three locations, out on the side of the "valve cover", under the battery, or under the dash at the peddle.

biggy238 · 05-05-2013, 07:24 PM

Where is the information for pin locations found? Just using two FSM's?

From my Not-So-Smart phone

ComnRailPwr · 05-05-2013, 07:42 PM

Thats what I do.

HeTheAethyr! · 05-06-2013, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggy238

Dominant node meaning it is Protocol initiator?
We add the terminating resistors to cat bypass harnesses to allow J1939 on the bench. Not A big deal. Good information to hear though.
I had a friend asking these very questions this morning.
So to clarify, the 06 ecm is replacing the 03 outright with just a Harness Repin and throttle sensor added?

From my Not-So-Smart phone

correct statement. when we talk about the CAN-C buss communication its actually J2248? 45? because there smart devices they placed the correct terminating resistor in the componet.

HeTheAethyr! · 05-06-2013, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw99

get the dash figured out?

next, i sould be getting my hands on a 06 tipm and dash cluster then let the madness begin. i've got a theory and well see if im wrong..

texsasdiesel · 06-19-2013, 06:30 AM

bump for any updates

HeTheAethyr! · 07-12-2013, 09:44 PM

Gauges are alive but dont respond. didnt relize that the gagues where CAN B .... its almost not ledgable on the internet print.
Leads the next question.. ill post when i have more answers.. let the digging begin.

Moparmatty · 07-21-2013, 10:28 PM

I assume for this to work properly that a TTVA has to be added in an auto application?

HeTheAethyr! · 07-22-2013, 10:45 AM

unless you rig up a transmission linkage. ive currently have my 47 at a fab shop getting threaded bungs tig welded to the case for the TTVA motor.

STROKETHISF350 · 09-07-2013, 09:05 PM

Hey bud any updates yet, how did u figure out where all the pins go?

HeTheAethyr! · 09-09-2013, 04:16 PM

Ran in to problems due to communication differences between the dash and engine. Was able to wire the dash and perform the functionality check verifying operation but tach, voltage, or CEL was not functional during idle.

Talked with a communication engineer from AT&T and Software Support Specialist for a local software company some information. No luck.. Apples to oranges tho. Still digging in my free time.

05-03-2013, 05:59 PM	#42
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05-04-2013, 10:01 AM	#43
HeTheAethyr! Name: HeTheAethyr! Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Livermore Ca Member`s Gallery Posts: 317	it communicates. __________________ Heros Never Live, Legends Never Die.

05-04-2013, 10:13 AM	#45
HeTheAethyr! Name: HeTheAethyr! Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Livermore Ca Member`s Gallery Posts: 317	There are 20+ pins locations that where moved, I add sensor grounds and removed the 14 pin intermediate connector on the OEM 05 harness. It starts, it runs, and we did a small EFILIVE log last night. It would be just as "simple" if you repined your painless. __________________ Heros Never Live, Legends Never Die.

05-04-2013, 10:15 AM	#46
HeTheAethyr! Name: HeTheAethyr! Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Livermore Ca Member`s Gallery Posts: 317	The apps pedal was "national back order" at Chrysler but I received delivery within 5 days. Go figure __________________ Heros Never Live, Legends Never Die.

05-05-2013, 02:37 PM	#47
outlaw99 Name: outlaw99 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: london Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,209	get the dash figured out? __________________ 04 QCLB 'OLD WHITEY' 839/1670 100hp tips... TOOPS PERFORMANCE IN HOUSE DYNO TUNING EFI LIVE/UDC TUNING CUMMINS 03-04.5 efi conversions

05-03-2013, 04:53 PM	#41
ComnRailPwr Name: ComnRailPwr Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stoutsville , OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,293	This with 03/04 apps or 04.5 up pedal mounted apps?

05-05-2013, 03:08 PM	#48
ComnRailPwr Name: ComnRailPwr Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stoutsville , OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,293	Do you have a better pin removal tool than that junk plastic ones. When I repinned my original harness I went through 20 of those. That project got scrapped due to some unrelated modifications and I figured sci would be out by the time I was done. Fast forward a year and its still not here. I just got mine running with 06 electronics and that was much easier. My only gripe is my truck does not have connector c130 like I believe 04.5 up has so it was slightly more difficult to locate circuits. End rant.

05-05-2013, 04:29 PM	#49
biggy238 Name: biggy238 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just North of Wrong Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,865	Dominant node meaning it is Protocol initiator? We add the terminating resistors to cat bypass harnesses to allow J1939 on the bench. Not A big deal. Good information to hear though. I had a friend asking these very questions this morning. So to clarify, the 06 ecm is replacing the 03 outright with just a Harness Repin and throttle sensor added? From my Not-So-Smart phone __________________ Check out @bdmaximusworx 05.5 Campanella White TDi Jetta 5spd 45.5MPG -Little Sexy '10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped Insta @trash.panda250

05-05-2013, 07:24 PM	#51
biggy238 Name: biggy238 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just North of Wrong Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,865	Where is the information for pin locations found? Just using two FSM's? From my Not-So-Smart phone __________________ Check out @bdmaximusworx 05.5 Campanella White TDi Jetta 5spd 45.5MPG -Little Sexy '10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped Insta @trash.panda250

05-05-2013, 07:42 PM	#52
ComnRailPwr Name: ComnRailPwr Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stoutsville , OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,293	Thats what I do.

06-19-2013, 06:30 AM	#55
texsasdiesel Name: texsasdiesel Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 524	bump for any updates __________________ 03 QC Dually Auto: Tow Rig/DD 02 Ram 2500: NV5600, 24V, P7100 85 Dodge Crew Cab: 12v, NV4500, NP205, sb dually

07-12-2013, 09:44 PM	#56
HeTheAethyr! Name: HeTheAethyr! Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Livermore Ca Member`s Gallery Posts: 317	Gauges are alive but dont respond. didnt relize that the gagues where CAN B .... its almost not ledgable on the internet print. Leads the next question.. ill post when i have more answers.. let the digging begin. __________________ Heros Never Live, Legends Never Die.

07-21-2013, 10:28 PM	#57
Moparmatty Name: Moparmatty Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Land of Canucks Member`s Gallery Posts: 97	I assume for this to work properly that a TTVA has to be added in an auto application?

07-22-2013, 10:45 AM	#58
HeTheAethyr! Name: HeTheAethyr! Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Livermore Ca Member`s Gallery Posts: 317	unless you rig up a transmission linkage. ive currently have my 47 at a fab shop getting threaded bungs tig welded to the case for the TTVA motor. __________________ Heros Never Live, Legends Never Die.

09-07-2013, 09:05 PM	#59
STROKETHISF350 Name: STROKETHISF350 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: HARFORD COUNTY MARYLAND Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,253	Hey bud any updates yet, how did u figure out where all the pins go? __________________ 06 ram 3500 CCLB dually l 100% fleece injectors l ppe dual fuelers l Hamilton 188/220 l 103# valve springs l ported & oringed head l arp 425s l he 351 over 475 built by me l efi live l fass l full billet 48re built by me

09-09-2013, 04:16 PM	#60
HeTheAethyr! Name: HeTheAethyr! Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Livermore Ca Member`s Gallery Posts: 317	Ran in to problems due to communication differences between the dash and engine. Was able to wire the dash and perform the functionality check verifying operation but tach, voltage, or CEL was not functional during idle. Talked with a communication engineer from AT&T and Software Support Specialist for a local software company some information. No luck.. Apples to oranges tho. Still digging in my free time. __________________ Heros Never Live, Legends Never Die.