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Old 09-02-2013, 11:12 PM   #21
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Just to be clear here, I was not getting a line pressure drop going into OD. It only dropped pressure when locking the converter, in any gear. I guess I should really have checked pressure at the OD port, might have told me something there.


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Gotcha, I thought it was OD when it dropped. Nevermind that last part
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:36 PM   #22
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Not sure if the pump is ok. Looks like it had some crap run through it and/or run a bit dry. I have some aftermarket 10 lobe 48re gears I was gonna through in it but with the amount of $$$$ in this damn thing I'd feel better just getting a whole 48 pump ass. thats in good shape.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:42 PM   #23
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Does anyone have any input on clutches and steels? We had used Borg/ raybestos frictions and those black coated steels, but not sure if there any better than regular steels.




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Old 09-05-2013, 08:37 PM   #24
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I personally am using Red Alto's in my build ...... havent herd anything bad about them yet ..... ? alnog with kolean steels ? i think thats how its spelled .....
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:38 PM   #25
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Does anyone have any input on clutches and steels? We had used Borg/ raybestos frictions and those black coated steels, but not sure if there any better than regular steels.




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I just run Borg and raybestos clutches and standard steels.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:45 PM   #26
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how does your handle power ? ... thingking about upping the anti to 500ish instead of my peliminary 4-450
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:44 PM   #27
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how does your handle power ? ... thingking about upping the anti to 500ish instead of my peliminary 4-450
Mine holds ~725hp at this point in time just fine
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:55 PM   #28
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good to know ... what kind of line pressure you running ?
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:10 PM   #29
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Would it be a good idea to just go ahead and replace ALL the clutches? I haven't torn the trans completely down yet but I'm pretty sure the rest are ok. I'll know this weekend. But the fluid was burnt and dirty so they've been soaking in that ****.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:26 PM   #30
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If it was that burnt, yes, replace them. All its going to do is fill your brand new fluid up with clutch material.

Go with high energy/stock steels.

Just focus on the line pressure, or you will be here again
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:35 PM   #31
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Yeah, really hoping to fix that pressure drop issue this time around. Will be going to 48 pump and new converter.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:06 AM   #32
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good to know ... what kind of line pressure you running ?
around 180psi now. It held mid 600s @ 140psi of line pressure.

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Would it be a good idea to just go ahead and replace ALL the clutches? I haven't torn the trans completely down yet but I'm pretty sure the rest are ok. I'll know this weekend. But the fluid was burnt and dirty so they've been soaking in that ****.
I would check them out, if they are in ok shape then i would probably clean them off, clean the hard parts really well and re-use them. Be sure to clean the VB really well as thats where you will have issues if its full of crap.
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I bet the converter is your pressure drop
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:10 PM   #34
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I bet the converter is your pressure drop
Would make sence .... it too pumps fluid .....
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:59 PM   #35
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Wtf? Where in the trans would there be these little roller things? It appears a bunch of them got stuck in the OD planet, locking it solid. Gonna be fun getting this apart.

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Old 09-08-2013, 08:17 PM   #36
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wow roller bearing somewhere let loose...thats crazy...trans kdp
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:35 PM   #37
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Ok well the roller was from the planet, looks like it exploded...


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Old 09-08-2013, 08:36 PM   #38
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:45 PM   #39
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Was a $100 6 pinion planet from patc.... cheap chinese metal? Shoulda kept the oem 5 gear I guess.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:33 PM   #40
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Front band slightly burnt, looks like it wasn't contacting very good. Time to go back to a flex band?
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Clutches look ok, some have slight dark spots. Not impressed with the kolene coated steels, alot was worn off already. Probably gonna just get all new stuff .ImageUploadedByTapatalk1378693969.544346.jpg


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