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03-24-2016, 07:59 PM
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Name: Kick Start
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I ask these questions because I'm possibly interested in this product when I change my fluid next.
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03-24-2016, 08:54 PM
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Name: AHall
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Shift kit in bottle + shift kit in valvebody = 2 shift kits, correct?
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03-24-2016, 09:23 PM
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Name: Chrisd91
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AHall
Shift kit in bottle + shift kit in valvebody = 2 shift kits, correct?
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So it'll now shift twice as much?
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03-24-2016, 09:51 PM
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Name: AHall
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8speed upgrade.
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03-25-2016, 09:18 AM
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Name: Extended Power
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Any testing done with this fluid in the ford's 5R110?
Very curious.
Will be running a DPC 12" 2400 stall, and wouldn't mind changing the fluid to this at that time. (Maybe I should just do one thing at a time though?)
Thoughts?
Should also point out, that I presently have no issues with slippage in the trans.
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04-06-2016, 11:17 PM
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Name: Big Blue24
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Originally Posted by Kick Start
How many miles are on your test trucks fluid?
Has a transmission been torn apart yet to see the results of the fluid on the clutches?
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We have 15k miles on Power Torque ATF in my personal daily driver. We've been into several transmissions that were running it short term like 5k miles or less, so far, everything looks normal. Trannys that were slipping and used this fluid to limp along for a couple months, looked like any other tranny with slipped or burned clutches. Trannys with healthy clutches, bushings, and bearings still had healthy clutches, bushings, and bearings.
Keep in mind, Power Torque is still an ATF, meaning it has the important anti-foaming, anti-oxidation, detergents, and lubrication properties that every ATF contains, this isn't straight 30wt non detergent oil dyed red.... that would be reckless...
Power Torque ATF is a mostly synthetic based premium transmission fluid without the huge amount of friction modifiers that most OEM fluids contain to cushion shifts and make the transmissions shift like slush boxes.
Admittedly, this is a new product and it'll be years before anyone can draw concrete conclusions about whether or not it extends clutch life by virtue of lessened engagement time and therefore less slippage. Common sense leads me to believe that less slippage will cause less wear which will increase clutch life but I can't prove it so all I can claim is it holds more power on the dyno and makes chattering slipping transmissions chatter and slip less.
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04-06-2016, 11:20 PM
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Name: Big Blue24
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Originally Posted by AHall
Shift kit in bottle + shift kit in valvebody = 2 shift kits, correct?
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Yes sir! Stacked shift kits is like stacked chips, twice the power!!!
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Originally Posted by Chrisd91
So it'll now shift twice as much?
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Exactly!
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Originally Posted by AHall
8speed upgrade.
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That's a good idea, then the awesome 4 speed can hunt for gear twice as long, think of it as taking the downside of an Allison at the Drag Strip and multiplying it!!!
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95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
1502 HP Fuel-Only 12mm P7100 Pump
SXE 472 over GTX55 116mm
OEM 12v Block
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04-06-2016, 11:27 PM
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Name: Big Blue24
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Originally Posted by Extended Power
Any testing done with this fluid in the ford's 5R110?
Very curious.
Will be running a DPC 12" 2400 stall, and wouldn't mind changing the fluid to this at that time. (Maybe I should just do one thing at a time though?)
Thoughts?
Should also point out, that I presently have no issues with slippage in the trans.
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If you current fluid is holding, and you aren't due for a fluid change/service, I probably wouldn't waste my time changing fluid unless you want to experiment with your truck/tranny to see if it really does make a difference or if we are full of it.....
But if you're going into the tranny to change the converter, it's a good time to give it a shot.
We have sold some fluid to Ford guys with 5r110's, we haven't had any complaints or bad feedback. Todd is running Power Torque ATF in his 6.0 Excursion with a tune and a turbo upgrade, it's his wife's daily driver and it runs high 13's at the track and has about 10k miles on the fluid, it's a stock tranny but is holding the power fine. It also acts as a tow vehicle when his family tags along to racing events so it's showing the fluid is fine for both track and daily driving, and towing usage in a 5R110.
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95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
1502 HP Fuel-Only 12mm P7100 Pump
SXE 472 over GTX55 116mm
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04-06-2016, 11:31 PM
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Name: AHall
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Originally Posted by Big Blue24
Yes sir! Stacked shift kits is like stacked chips, twice the power!!!
Exactly!
That's a good idea, then the awesome 4 speed can hunt for gear twice as long, think of it as taking the downside of an Allison at the Drag Strip and multiplying it!!!
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You just described my 68rfe! I'm interested in doing a little 4l80 testing. Might be a bad example because they have lots of clutch surface area. The shafts on the other hand.
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04-07-2016, 05:02 PM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Is this stuff ok to mix with other oils? So you can just refill the pan and not have to flush the trans?
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04-07-2016, 11:30 PM
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Name: Big Blue24
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Originally Posted by madmikeismad
Is this stuff ok to mix with other oils? So you can just refill the pan and not have to flush the trans?
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Yes, it mixes fine with ATF +4, Dexron 3, Ford Type F, Universal Tractor Fluid, Allison Transynd, etc.
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95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
1502 HP Fuel-Only 12mm P7100 Pump
SXE 472 over GTX55 116mm
OEM 12v Block
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08-30-2016, 12:45 AM
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Name: Limited
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Just ordered 2 cases. My bomb proof 47RE is just broke in with a couple hundred miles and I intend to drop the ATF+4 and refill with PT ATF. I will post any significant result.
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