24v valvetrain issues. Anybody had this problem? - Competition Diesel.Com

ILLINOISRAM · 09-21-2008, 07:15 PM

I bought a set of titanium springs, chromoly retainers with 10* locks and chromoly 10mm pushrods. The first problem is when I bolted the rocker arms down, the exhaust rocker hits the intake valve retainer that is right underneath it when the valve is in the closed position. The second one is that the bridges dont fit in the hole of the retainer and make contact. I am in negotiations right now on a getting my money back. I was just wondering if anybody else has seen this or if not what setup are you running and will they handle true 5k down the track. Pics would be sweet if anybody has some. Thanks, Tim

ILLINOISRAM · 09-23-2008, 03:39 PM

anybody?

Bosshawg600 · 09-23-2008, 10:26 PM

I watching this one! One of my next mods is going to be a stout VT!

roachie · 09-23-2008, 10:28 PM

Im still rocking the stockers to 4100. Probaly not my best idea.

ILLINOISRAM · 09-23-2008, 11:24 PM

You know what the funny thing is, everybody knows you need them but nobody actually has any experiance with them. Except Haisley wich get them from Enterprise. I call Schieds and talked to brad, he said we dont run anything other than stock. I replied with what about on your pulling truck, he replied with uh, um, it just ran stock setup. Thanks for the help brad. Surely somebody has some experiance with a high rpm setup that can help us out. Drew at enterprise was helpful in talking but i have to get my money back from the other ones first. Tim

Rods · 09-23-2008, 11:33 PM

I found springs for 125$ for all 24, they are made by crower and can withstand up to 9000RPMS the seat is going to vary around 100PSI but more talking to them for that , as for bridges and push rods they will b cryoed

ILLINOISRAM · 09-23-2008, 11:41 PM

The main problem with the ones i got is the retainers are 140 thou. thick. Stock ones at the fat part are like .088 thou. but taper down to the outside for ample clearance. Even if you shaved the retainers down to stock thickness, the locks are so beefy too that the bridge hits them before full resting on the valve. I hate to take chances like that when i know how i plan on turning this thing. Tim

kxhonda · 09-24-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rods

I found springs for 125$ for all 24, they are made by crower and can withstand up to 9000RPMS the seat is going to vary around 100PSI but more talking to them for that , as for bridges and push rods they will b cryoed

Crower 68190's? Thats what I'm gonna run.

ILLINOISRAM · 09-24-2008, 12:22 PM

Do these crower springs use stock retainers and locks?

Rods · 09-24-2008, 05:38 PM

should cause the ID is the same .745 ,,, OD 1.04 stock is 1.08 there about

they have TI retainers for 200$ for 16 but I'm usen quad4 reatainers they are lighter than the stock cummins,, I have them on there now

09-21-2008, 07:15 PM	#1
ILLINOISRAM Name: ILLINOISRAM Title: INLINE INSANITY Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lane IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,891	24v valvetrain issues. Anybody had this problem? I bought a set of titanium springs, chromoly retainers with 10* locks and chromoly 10mm pushrods. The first problem is when I bolted the rocker arms down, the exhaust rocker hits the intake valve retainer that is right underneath it when the valve is in the closed position. The second one is that the bridges dont fit in the hole of the retainer and make contact. I am in negotiations right now on a getting my money back. I was just wondering if anybody else has seen this or if not what setup are you running and will they handle true 5k down the track. Pics would be sweet if anybody has some. Thanks, Tim __________________ 99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.

09-23-2008, 03:39 PM	#2
ILLINOISRAM Name: ILLINOISRAM Title: INLINE INSANITY Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lane IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,891	anybody? __________________ 99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.

09-23-2008, 10:26 PM	#3
Bosshawg600 Name: Bosshawg600 Title: PDP.com FireFighter Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Monticello,In Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,651	I watching this one! One of my next mods is going to be a stout VT! __________________ 2011 Ram Mega, Because my old bones need Comfort!

09-23-2008, 10:28 PM	#4
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	Im still rocking the stockers to 4100. Probaly not my best idea. __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

09-23-2008, 11:24 PM	#5
ILLINOISRAM Name: ILLINOISRAM Title: INLINE INSANITY Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lane IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,891	You know what the funny thing is, everybody knows you need them but nobody actually has any experiance with them. Except Haisley wich get them from Enterprise. I call Schieds and talked to brad, he said we dont run anything other than stock. I replied with what about on your pulling truck, he replied with uh, um, it just ran stock setup. Thanks for the help brad. Surely somebody has some experiance with a high rpm setup that can help us out. Drew at enterprise was helpful in talking but i have to get my money back from the other ones first. Tim __________________ 99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.

09-23-2008, 11:33 PM	#6
Rods Name: Rods Title: Turbo Crasher Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scottsville Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,972	I found springs for 125$ for all 24, they are made by crower and can withstand up to 9000RPMS the seat is going to vary around 100PSI but more talking to them for that , as for bridges and push rods they will b cryoed

09-23-2008, 11:41 PM	#7
ILLINOISRAM Name: ILLINOISRAM Title: INLINE INSANITY Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lane IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,891	The main problem with the ones i got is the retainers are 140 thou. thick. Stock ones at the fat part are like .088 thou. but taper down to the outside for ample clearance. Even if you shaved the retainers down to stock thickness, the locks are so beefy too that the bridge hits them before full resting on the valve. I hate to take chances like that when i know how i plan on turning this thing. Tim __________________ 99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.

09-24-2008, 12:22 PM	#9
ILLINOISRAM Name: ILLINOISRAM Title: INLINE INSANITY Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lane IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,891	Do these crower springs use stock retainers and locks? __________________ 99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.

09-24-2008, 05:38 PM	#10
Rods Name: Rods Title: Turbo Crasher Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scottsville Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,972	should cause the ID is the same .745 ,,, OD 1.04 stock is 1.08 there about they have TI retainers for 200$ for 16 but I'm usen quad4 reatainers they are lighter than the stock cummins,, I have them on there now