Found another air shutoff!! - Competition Diesel.Com

joefarmer · 10-24-2006, 10:34 PM

It was under my nose the whole time!

http://www.columbusdieselsupply.com/ps4.htm

brnaodn.

house · 10-24-2006, 11:23 PM

yikes on price

http://www.guillotineaccessories.com/ try them

Burner · 10-25-2006, 12:04 AM

I'd like to see one that use a ball, like a 5" ball for a 4" pipe. A solid ball will be drawn to the inlet, it will not hang.

turbothom · 10-25-2006, 08:03 AM

The "yikes on price" is the exact reason I started, and stopped, putting together a shutoff. Just price the parts needed and the machining cost. That price is not out of line. If you can't afford it, stay off the track, cause there will be more you can't afford. So just save your money and maintain your calmness and composure.

..Preston..

joefarmer · 10-25-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by house

yikes on price

http://www.guillotineaccessories.com/ try them

That looks like ductwork sheetmetal? It looks like the price matches with the ability to stop an engine.

brnadon.

*Amish Elegance* · 10-25-2006, 11:37 AM

The best one I've seen so far, from a cost standpoint is an exhaust stack flapper. Clamp that sucker right to the inducer or a tube off the inducer. Various designs are out there, but if held open with a throttle cable through the counterweight and the band mount (picture worth thousand words) and spring loaded to snap shut on the inducer, it will stop runaways for about $7.50 plus ingenuity tax.

Just an idea. It wont draw near the envious looks from the chicks out there as the $800 version, but you'll pass tech the same if done right.

Disadvantage to the Rain Cap method is you cant filter intake air.

smokinrod · 10-25-2006, 12:09 PM

it works we have one

smokinrod · 10-25-2006, 12:11 PM

other than the sheet metal part it is pretty decent. I think I am going to try to change out that part for a peice of stainless or something

Rods · 10-25-2006, 07:56 PM

Brandon, Kenny sells one just like that but its just spring loaded for 75$ u could add a small C02 tank and call it air

joefarmer · 10-25-2006, 10:58 PM

he has one that looks like the picture I posted? I thoguht it looked flimsy. I don't want an air shutoff because of the rules, I want one because of safety. I don't see how a 20ga piece of sheet steel wouldn't get sucked into the intake. I've seen a runaway with a tractor stack flapper on the intake and it KEPT ON RUNNING AWAY when tripped. The results of that one were not good.

brandon.

Rods · 10-26-2006, 11:08 AM

He uses them on pulling tractors (super stock and such ) , ill try to get a pic of one on a friends truck

smokinrod · 10-26-2006, 11:57 AM

been pulled and it worked ,thats all I can say

*Sledpuller* · 11-01-2006, 07:19 AM

The above sheetmetal shutoff, is risky at best. What happens, is the suction from the turbo, actually bends the sheetmetal,and makes it drag hard. The one I saw in action, FINALLY closed, it just took along time!!!!

The flappers are better, but will leak some air.

For absolute shutdown, the butterfly that BBDand I used is the best. yea they cost a little, 350+, but what does an engine cost?

*Sledpuller* · 11-01-2006, 07:23 AM

If you want to try a sheetmetal guillotine, check out Mcmaster-Carr- I think I bought mine for $17.00.
In fact, I think I still have it--$100

!!!!!

getblown5.9 · 11-01-2006, 11:09 AM

do these go in before or after the turbo?

it looks like i may need one to pull in some of the classes next season, along with driveshaft loops.

***wideopen*** · 11-01-2006, 11:21 AM

these are Pre-Turbo

house · 11-01-2006, 12:34 PM

sleddy have a link, i dont mind spending 350ish on a good one, but 600 is takign away from trying to amke a ford have power fund

Nasty Girl · 11-01-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefarmer

That looks like ductwork sheetmetal? It looks like the price matches with the ability to stop an engine.

brnadon.

I run this version in 6" works AWSOME!

joefarmer · 11-01-2006, 04:04 PM

Ditto to House... Where do I get the butterfly-style from Gene?

brandon.

*Sledpuller* · 11-01-2006, 06:38 PM

Chalwyn valve, I think BBD has a link on his site.

10-24-2006, 10:34 PM	#1
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	Found another air shutoff!! It was under my nose the whole time! http://www.columbusdieselsupply.com/ps4.htm brnaodn. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

10-24-2006, 11:23 PM	#2
house Name: house Title: the Fat kid! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kokomo/Angola, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,780	yikes on price http://www.guillotineaccessories.com/ try them __________________ Joe "House" Kupferschmid 2005 CC LB Dmax ZF6 Puller 2006 CC DRW Dmax Tow Rig 2013 VW Jetta TDI.. Last edited by house; 10-24-2006 at 11:31 PM.

10-25-2006, 12:04 AM	#3
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,393	I'd like to see one that use a ball, like a 5" ball for a 4" pipe. A solid ball will be drawn to the inlet, it will not hang. __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

10-25-2006, 11:37 AM	#6
Amish Elegance Name: Amish Elegance Title: Schadenfreude Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,465	The best one I've seen so far, from a cost standpoint is an exhaust stack flapper. Clamp that sucker right to the inducer or a tube off the inducer. Various designs are out there, but if held open with a throttle cable through the counterweight and the band mount (picture worth thousand words) and spring loaded to snap shut on the inducer, it will stop runaways for about $7.50 plus ingenuity tax. Just an idea. It wont draw near the envious looks from the chicks out there as the $800 version, but you'll pass tech the same if done right. Disadvantage to the Rain Cap method is you cant filter intake air. __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM *03 2500* Thanks to Engineered Diesel Thanks to Pure Diesel Power and Mumau Diesel. How I Post..

10-25-2006, 12:09 PM	#7
smokinrod Name: smokinrod Title: diesel jerk Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: allendale, michigan Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,232	it works we have one __________________ just another pewter dmax work stock puller

10-25-2006, 08:03 AM	#4
turbothom Name: turbothom Title: dobro slide boy Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 179	The "yikes on price" is the exact reason I started, and stopped, putting together a shutoff. Just price the parts needed and the machining cost. That price is not out of line. If you can't afford it, stay off the track, cause there will be more you can't afford. So just save your money and maintain your calmness and composure. ..Preston..

10-25-2006, 12:11 PM	#8
smokinrod Name: smokinrod Title: diesel jerk Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: allendale, michigan Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,232	other than the sheet metal part it is pretty decent. I think I am going to try to change out that part for a peice of stainless or something __________________ just another pewter dmax work stock puller

10-25-2006, 07:56 PM	#9
Rods Name: Rods Title: Turbo Crasher Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scottsville Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,972	Brandon, Kenny sells one just like that but its just spring loaded for 75$ u could add a small C02 tank and call it air

10-25-2006, 10:58 PM	#10
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	he has one that looks like the picture I posted? I thoguht it looked flimsy. I don't want an air shutoff because of the rules, I want one because of safety. I don't see how a 20ga piece of sheet steel wouldn't get sucked into the intake. I've seen a runaway with a tractor stack flapper on the intake and it KEPT ON RUNNING AWAY when tripped. The results of that one were not good. brandon. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

10-26-2006, 11:08 AM	#11
Rods Name: Rods Title: Turbo Crasher Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scottsville Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,972	He uses them on pulling tractors (super stock and such ) , ill try to get a pic of one on a friends truck

10-26-2006, 11:57 AM	#12
smokinrod Name: smokinrod Title: diesel jerk Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: allendale, michigan Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,232	been pulled and it worked ,thats all I can say __________________ just another pewter dmax work stock puller

11-01-2006, 07:19 AM	#13
Sledpuller Name: Sledpuller Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,160	The above sheetmetal shutoff, is risky at best. What happens, is the suction from the turbo, actually bends the sheetmetal,and makes it drag hard. The one I saw in action, FINALLY closed, it just took along time!!!! The flappers are better, but will leak some air. For absolute shutdown, the butterfly that BBDand I used is the best. yea they cost a little, 350+, but what does an engine cost?

11-01-2006, 07:23 AM	#14
Sledpuller Name: Sledpuller Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,160	If you want to try a sheetmetal guillotine, check out Mcmaster-Carr- I think I bought mine for $17.00. In fact, I think I still have it--$100 !!!!!

11-01-2006, 11:09 AM	#15
getblown5.9 Name: getblown5.9 Title: Ceritified Kleenex Dealer Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,259	do these go in before or after the turbo? it looks like i may need one to pull in some of the classes next season, along with driveshaft loops. __________________ ONE PIECE AT A TIME -02 Dodge Ram 2500-Because...Pull Truck 07 Dodge 3500 SRW Megacab Laramie- 5.9/Auto, 250,000 miles, built for longevity

11-01-2006, 11:21 AM	#16
*wideopen* Name: *wideopen* Title: Slum Lord Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kowloon Member`s Gallery Posts: 20,815	these are Pre-Turbo __________________ ____________________________________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Born on Date: April 3 2006 TS Performance ~ Diesel Performance Converters~ Fleece Performance ~ Suncoast ~ Fast Layne ~ Pro Street Diesel Hellmann Performance ~ Keating Machine ~ Engineered Diesel ~ Mumau Diesel ~ GoGo Diesel ~ Hamilton Cams ~ Diesel Innovations ~ Grand Rock Exhaust ~ Smarty "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Molon labe #FTCS

11-01-2006, 12:34 PM	#17
house Name: house Title: the Fat kid! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kokomo/Angola, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,780	sleddy have a link, i dont mind spending 350ish on a good one, but 600 is takign away from trying to amke a ford have power fund __________________ Joe "House" Kupferschmid 2005 CC LB Dmax ZF6 Puller 2006 CC DRW Dmax Tow Rig 2013 VW Jetta TDI..

11-01-2006, 04:04 PM	#19
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	Ditto to House... Where do I get the butterfly-style from Gene? brandon. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

11-01-2006, 06:38 PM	#20
Sledpuller Name: Sledpuller Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,160	Chalwyn valve, I think BBD has a link on his site.