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06-24-2013, 07:19 PM
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Name: Lamont_24
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Saw this on thechive and figured I'd post it cause I got a kick out of it
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1995 Ford F350 5.9 Cummins swap in progress
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06-24-2013, 08:06 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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Originally Posted by Mr.T
We pulled the BD off of it to take it to the cat doctor, its really running like shiit, I got outrun by a 475 ISX.....
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It would be a good time to maybe hook that thing up to the net and maybe get a little hotter tune.
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06-24-2013, 08:08 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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I wouldn't think that picture was funny until I was sure the driver made it out safe or wasn't in the truck. I know how rough just a tree falling on a cab can be on the driver.
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06-24-2013, 08:22 PM
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Name: straight_six
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Anyone have experience with a deleted 2009 C13?
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06-25-2013, 07:32 PM
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Name: rockytopcummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.T
We pulled the BD off of it to take it to the cat doctor, its really running like shiit, I got outrun by a 475 ISX.....
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Not only is that sad.... it's just plain embarassing.
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2001 Dodge 2500 ECLB 6spd
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SBDD 3850
4" turbo back/5" Aussies
Air Dog 150/150
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06-25-2013, 09:51 PM
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Name: lorendiesel5.9
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Originally Posted by Mr.T
There never was a single turbo acert....
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Thought they called the bridge motors and ACERT? I know jack about Cat's really just what I've always been told.
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97 #12vqclbmafia slipping auto
00 Pete 378 12.7 Detroit 10spd
03 Pete 379 6NZ Caterpillar 18spd
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06-25-2013, 10:33 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by straight_six
Anyone have experience with a deleted 2009 C13?
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Yep, what's your question.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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06-25-2013, 11:33 PM
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Name: Mr.T
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Originally Posted by lorendiesel5.9
Thought they called the bridge motors and ACERT? I know jack about Cat's really just what I've always been told.
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The MBN is just a 6NZ with an emissions cam, different turbo, and a shiity emissions tune
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2019 L5P, missing some stuff that makes it quiet.
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06-26-2013, 01:27 AM
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Name: chevota84
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Originally Posted by Mr.T
The MBN is just a 6NZ with an emissions cam, different turbo, and a shiity emissions tune
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I thought the compression was higher too
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99 Dodge 2500 with stuff
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06-26-2013, 01:41 AM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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Compression, injectors, cam, turbo, and the wastegate is controlled by the ECM.
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06-26-2013, 09:52 AM
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Name: Mr.T
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I forgot the MBN has a higher compression than the previous engines.
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2019 L5P, missing some stuff that makes it quiet.
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06-26-2013, 01:40 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.T
I forgot the MBN has a higher compression than the previous engines.
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Barely, injectors are chit too. Don't flow as much as a standard 57.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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06-26-2013, 03:49 PM
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Name: biggy238
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Mbn injection lobe timing is different. Had one in a reman engine backfire violently enough it ruptured a stack and put the tip on the guys hood.
From my Not-So-Smart phone
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06-26-2013, 07:20 PM
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Name: rockytopcummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggy238
Mbn injection lobe timing is different. Had one in a reman engine backfire violently enough it ruptured a stack and put the tip on the guys hood.
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WHAT?!? That sounds like an old "truck driver story".
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2001 Dodge 2500 ECLB 6spd
P-pumped
SBDD 3850
4" turbo back/5" Aussies
Air Dog 150/150
Tow mirrors flipped up to piss you off
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06-26-2013, 09:03 PM
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Name: 95taylor331
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Freightliner I used to drive up until about a year ago
Pete I still drive on occasion
Sorry I tried to crop them but apparently photobucket doesn't care lol
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01 3500, 260k miles, stock work truck
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06-26-2013, 09:06 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockytopcummins
WHAT?!? That sounds like an old "truck driver story".
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Yea they're not that much different. Swapping a crap MBN cam for a 800hp cam really wakes them up. MBN cam isn't good enough to use as a mailbox post
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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06-26-2013, 10:09 PM
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Name: biggy238
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You're kidding yourselves..... ordered a 6nz reman. (Can't remember the prefix)
The camshaft numbers were transposed at the time of assembly. The two last digits actually. One number ends in 01, the other in 10. Between 1200 and 1400 it would backfire furiously. The last run made ruptured the stack. We had video of the backfiring on Facebook. I will see if I can dig it up. Customer ended up letting the truck be repo'd.
From my Not-So-Smart phone
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06-27-2013, 07:17 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggy238
You're kidding yourselves..... ordered a 6nz reman. (Can't remember the prefix)
The camshaft numbers were transposed at the time of assembly. The two last digits actually. One number ends in 01, the other in 10. Between 1200 and 1400 it would backfire furiously. The last run made ruptured the stack. We had video of the backfiring on Facebook. I will see if I can dig it up. Customer ended up letting the truck be repo'd.
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Well I can't see how you can pull a MBN cam and install a 6NZ or 800Hp marine cam and have zero issues, but going the other way causes complete chaos. Now if you installed it a few teeth off.......
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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06-27-2013, 05:23 PM
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Name: biggy238
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The cams base timing is offset. Injection lobe has longer duration for higher injection pressure. Cam gear is the same number. You can see the offset in the drilling on the stub.
I'm working off memory. It happened this time last year.
From my Not-So-Smart phone
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06-27-2013, 09:25 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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If that were the case you wouldnt be able to run a 6nz or 7cz program without it causing major issues, and that isnt the case.
The only time I have ever had a diesel backfire is when the timing was retarded, I did this on purpose on my B model to see what would happen. Retarding the cam a tooth or so would produce the same thing.
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