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2141pete · 03-17-2010, 08:39 AM

My hands arent designed for places like that. The only extensions I had to use are those ones with the collars that slide to lock the socket on so they wouldnt fit.

getblown5.9 · 03-17-2010, 09:46 AM

long 1/4" drive extension, swivel/universal joint, and a paper towel to stick in the socket, push the nut in and tear it off so the nut stays int he socket.

i dont have sausages for fingers, i have kielbasas, so i have to figure out ways to do this with tools and not my hands.

BgBlDodge · 03-17-2010, 09:58 AM

I've got skinny arms and fingers and that nut was still a mf'er.

Oh ya, the injection lines are a pos. Scheid should be embarassed.

yoshi470 · 03-17-2010, 10:12 AM

ok next question. What should i torque the nut to on the pump drive? I've heard anywhere from 125ft/lbs to 175ft/lbs??

Im thinking im gonna do what pete too and grind a straight groove in the shaft as well

BgBlDodge · 03-17-2010, 10:16 AM

Mines at 150.

roachie · 03-17-2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BgBlDodge

I've got skinny arms and fingers and that nut was still a mf'er.

Oh ya, the injection lines are a pos. Scheid should be embarassed.

The #2 that was with my set, I think is on Yoshi's set now. Looked like they made the line for an engine 3" taller than mine.

Whoever makes those needs to be fired.

LReiff · 03-17-2010, 10:26 AM

Tyler, 225 if you never want it to slip.

red dodge2 · 03-17-2010, 11:00 AM

225 ft lbs? i only torqued mine to 150. i took a permanent marker and marked a line on my pump gear for TDC.

LReiff · 03-17-2010, 11:16 AM

Yes 225 ft-lbs, the stock nut is ok but a wider nut is best. I get the wider nuts at my local Deutz/Agco dealer, they are a wheel nut or something, maybe Chris (Signature600) can find them.

BgBlDodge · 03-17-2010, 12:34 PM

Dang man. I don't even have a torque wrench for something like that.

SSpeeDEMONSS · 03-17-2010, 12:45 PM

i set mine at like 160 then tightened even more.

Garrett

yoshi470 · 03-17-2010, 01:03 PM

ok before i tighten down my gear nut how do i make sure im as close as possilbe to tdc? I got the marks lined up on the crank and cam gear, and i pulled an injector and stuck s screwdriver down the hole and go it right on. Am i good to go?

LReiff · 03-17-2010, 01:13 PM

What you did will be as close as you can get it without a dial indicator, even the timing pins on the 12v engines can be off TDC a slight bit.

yoshi470 · 03-17-2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LReiff

What you did will be as close as you can get it without a dial indicator, even the timing pins on the 12v engines can be off TDC a slight bit.

Ok i got it as close as i could. Im guessing it should be within a degree.

LReiff · 03-17-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoshi470

Ok i got it as close as i could. Im guessing it should be within a degree.

It'll be close enough that only you will know.

red dodge2 · 03-17-2010, 05:56 PM

it just put it on TDC before i took the vp44 off and kept it there when i put the p7100 on and marked the ppump gear.

white1196 · 03-17-2010, 06:08 PM

Scheids offers straight fuel lines i believe u could just bend your own

yoshi470 · 03-17-2010, 06:48 PM

got some bad news....broke my timing pin off tonight. Just the pump mounted all up and everything and shoulda had it running tomorrow and now this

kleann · 03-17-2010, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoshi470

got some bad news....broke my timing pin off tonight. Just the pump mounted all up and everything and shoulda had it running tomorrow and now this

The pin that you use in the back of the timing case?

yoshi470 · 03-17-2010, 07:29 PM

The pin you use to pin the timing on the p pump is the one I broke off...so now I gotta take the pump back off and shake the plastic pieces out.

03-17-2010, 08:39 AM	#41
2141pete Name: 2141pete Title: Hell I dont know Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Camp Pendleton, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,268	My hands arent designed for places like that. The only extensions I had to use are those ones with the collars that slide to lock the socket on so they wouldnt fit. __________________ 2018 Ram 2500 4x4

03-17-2010, 09:46 AM	#42
getblown5.9 Name: getblown5.9 Title: Ceritified Kleenex Dealer Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,259	long 1/4" drive extension, swivel/universal joint, and a paper towel to stick in the socket, push the nut in and tear it off so the nut stays int he socket. i dont have sausages for fingers, i have kielbasas, so i have to figure out ways to do this with tools and not my hands. __________________ ONE PIECE AT A TIME -02 Dodge Ram 2500-Because...Pull Truck 07 Dodge 3500 SRW Megacab Laramie- 5.9/Auto, 250,000 miles, built for longevity

03-17-2010, 09:58 AM	#43
BgBlDodge Name: BgBlDodge Title: Hates hippies Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buda, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,647	I've got skinny arms and fingers and that nut was still a mf'er. Oh ya, the injection lines are a pos. Scheid should be embarassed. __________________ 2003 Nissan 350z Touring 6mt 2000 4runner Limited Tyler Williams We have become educated beyond our intelligence. -Jerry Clower

03-17-2010, 10:12 AM	#44
yoshi470 Name: yoshi470 Title: EDP Janitor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,432	ok next question. What should i torque the nut to on the pump drive? I've heard anywhere from 125ft/lbs to 175ft/lbs?? Im thinking im gonna do what pete too and grind a straight groove in the shaft as well __________________ 2001 Dodge PPump 24V EDP, ED, Valiair, Hamilton, DDP, Airdog, ARP

03-17-2010, 10:16 AM	#45
BgBlDodge Name: BgBlDodge Title: Hates hippies Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buda, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,647	Mines at 150. __________________ 2003 Nissan 350z Touring 6mt 2000 4runner Limited Tyler Williams We have become educated beyond our intelligence. -Jerry Clower

03-17-2010, 11:00 AM	#48
red dodge2 Name: red dodge2 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ireland, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,803	225 ft lbs? i only torqued mine to 150. i took a permanent marker and marked a line on my pump gear for TDC. __________________ Sunday driver: 01 6psd laramie Tow rig: 2022 ram 3500 Laramie puller: 97 3.6 pro stock diesel truck "CUMMIN ATCHA" thanks to: Puredieselpower, Haisley Machine, Miley machine & fabrication, Northeast Diesel

03-17-2010, 12:34 PM	#50
BgBlDodge Name: BgBlDodge Title: Hates hippies Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buda, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,647	Dang man. I don't even have a torque wrench for something like that. __________________ 2003 Nissan 350z Touring 6mt 2000 4runner Limited Tyler Williams We have become educated beyond our intelligence. -Jerry Clower

03-17-2010, 12:45 PM	#51
SSpeeDEMONSS Name: SSpeeDEMONSS Title: Still Learning Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: LA/OC, so cal Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,370	i set mine at like 160 then tightened even more. Garrett __________________ 2003 F-250 XLT, CC, SB, 4wd, 5r110, 3.73 in pieces "Runs, DRIPS, and Errors" 94 2500 12v, 4wd, 5spd, 4.10. 382hp/1000tq gone but not forgotten 2000 GMC 2500 6.0 LQ4, 4l80e, 2wd, RC, LB needs a turbo

03-17-2010, 01:03 PM	#52
yoshi470 Name: yoshi470 Title: EDP Janitor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,432	ok before i tighten down my gear nut how do i make sure im as close as possilbe to tdc? I got the marks lined up on the crank and cam gear, and i pulled an injector and stuck s screwdriver down the hole and go it right on. Am i good to go? __________________ 2001 Dodge PPump 24V EDP, ED, Valiair, Hamilton, DDP, Airdog, ARP

03-17-2010, 05:56 PM	#56
red dodge2 Name: red dodge2 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ireland, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,803	it just put it on TDC before i took the vp44 off and kept it there when i put the p7100 on and marked the ppump gear. __________________ Sunday driver: 01 6psd laramie Tow rig: 2022 ram 3500 Laramie puller: 97 3.6 pro stock diesel truck "CUMMIN ATCHA" thanks to: Puredieselpower, Haisley Machine, Miley machine & fabrication, Northeast Diesel

03-17-2010, 06:08 PM	#57
white1196 Name: white1196 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Terre Haute Member`s Gallery Posts: 24	Scheids offers straight fuel lines i believe u could just bend your own

03-17-2010, 06:48 PM	#58
yoshi470 Name: yoshi470 Title: EDP Janitor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,432	got some bad news....broke my timing pin off tonight. Just the pump mounted all up and everything and shoulda had it running tomorrow and now this __________________ 2001 Dodge PPump 24V EDP, ED, Valiair, Hamilton, DDP, Airdog, ARP

03-17-2010, 07:29 PM	#60
yoshi470 Name: yoshi470 Title: EDP Janitor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,432	The pin you use to pin the timing on the p pump is the one I broke off...so now I gotta take the pump back off and shake the plastic pieces out. __________________ 2001 Dodge PPump 24V EDP, ED, Valiair, Hamilton, DDP, Airdog, ARP