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SHughes · 07-27-2010, 10:42 AM

I wish I was smart on this stuff.

*TheNatural31* · 07-27-2010, 10:44 AM

So we could call them:

Heinz 57.8's or .5-.6 errrs

RonA · 07-27-2010, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHughes

I wish I was smart on this stuff.

Me too. I just follow instructions

srt cummins · 08-02-2010, 11:44 PM

Does anyone sell a complete kit or is it not worth it? I will drive my truck 10 miles a day and shooting for 900hp so is the p-pump driveable at that hp? I was just think a programmer and dual cp3's and so on I could just go with a p-pump right?

BgBlDodge · 08-03-2010, 07:10 AM

stick with the cp3

RonA · 08-08-2010, 02:32 PM

I got it back on the road today. Mileage isn't great, just under 18, but I have been doing alot of short trips around the neighborhood playing with the tuning. I decided to re-plumb the air system for the afc and try to run if off the low pressure (cold pipe) side instead of manifold pressure. It's going to take a bit more tinkering to find just the right spring. It's still a bit tight right now and isn't allowing full arm travel till about 35psi(cold pipe). The injectors idle clean with the engine warmed up and an outside temp of 84 degrees. No visible smoke. I followed an older powerstroke into town just now and going up a modest grade at 62mph he was smoking alot more than i was. I did a couple of lazy 3/4 throttle roll ons from 70 to 110-120 or so and there is some haze, but it does not black out the road. I didn't try full throttle, but i can tell the fuel is lagging slightly behind the air. I looked down on the last run and saw the pyrometer was at 1200 just as i backed out of it. Hopefully i'll get some numbers toward the end of the month.

RonA · 08-26-2010, 10:12 PM

I've been putting a few miles on the new injectors. They require carefull use of the throttle. Too much too soon and it goes lethargic and rolls smoke. Mash the pedal and you can eat a sandwich before it lights. Roll into it just right and don't give it the last 1/4 of throttle till around 60psi and it runs really nice. I've been trying to get the afc spring just right and finally gave up and decided to just use better throttle control. I let if go to full fuel locked in second and shifted to third under power and it felt like I was rear ended by a train(god bless you Brad Ponci for building this transmission). We'll add the timing tomorrow and dyno saturday morning.

RonA · 08-28-2010, 04:54 PM

Got a chance to dyno the new injectors. On the first run they made 52hp more than the best I have made with the Mach 7's. It was a bit of a bummer because I started having some issues with the wastegates and we weren't able to add the additional timing I'd like to try. Smoke level and driveability are no worse than the Mach 7's. Made two trips to Redding and back(250 miles each) plus the dynos and was at 19mpg. Very pleased and looking forward to getting a chance to play with the tuning a bit more.

JOHNBOY · 08-28-2010, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonA

Got a chance to dyno the new injectors. On the first run they made 52hp more than the best I have made with the Mach 7's. It was a bit of a bummer because I started having some issues with the wastegates and we weren't able to add the additional timing I'd like to try. Smoke level and driveability are no worse than the Mach 7's. Made two trips to Redding and back(250 miles each) plus the dynos and was at 19mpg. Very pleased and looking forward to getting a chance to play with the tuning a bit more.

Good news on the injectors Ron!

*Smokem* · 08-28-2010, 05:05 PM

Good to hear Ron, the smoke issue sounds manageable since they are 1.3LPM larger than the 7's.

RonA · 08-28-2010, 05:14 PM

I was hoping to break 950. I got 933 on the first run with only about 35psi out of the primary. I started messing with the gate plumbing and couldn't get it to do what i wanted for some reason. We'll try again some other time.

SWALLDOG · 08-31-2010, 05:14 AM

good to hear Ron, thanks for the info and keep is updated on the tuning.

RonA · 09-06-2010, 10:21 AM

Checked the timing yesterday and I was at 22 degs. Timing was at 24 degs. with the 7's, so I expect to see a bit more of a difference when I bump it up. Wouldn't be suprised to see 100 hp difference between the 2 sets of injectors. I guess rainbows and baby foxes are a good thing Tim.

SHughes · 10-04-2010, 08:26 AM

Anything new with these sticks Ron??

RonA · 10-04-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHughes

Anything new with these sticks Ron??

I've been waiting for the shop to get some free time to do some tuning. They've been pretty busy and I like to see them make money instead of waste time tweaking on my old truck. Hopefully soon. I'd like to see a 4 digit run.

Kick Start · 10-05-2010, 08:23 PM

So are we saying that 24valve ppump specific built injectors are better or that just lowering the pop off pressures are better?
I'm not smart enuff to follow all the lingo but would like to know what all you smart fellows are talking about.

RonA · 10-05-2010, 08:30 PM

Either way works just fine.

Hotlappin' · 10-24-2010, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonA

Either way works just fine.

Except one way nets nearly 100hp more?

Warpig · 10-25-2010, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotlappin'

Except one way nets nearly 100hp more?

Lol

Is that what you got by reading this whole thread????

07-27-2010, 10:44 AM	#242
TheNatural31 Name: TheNatural31 Title: Missing pieces..... Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 848	So we could call them: Heinz 57.8's or .5-.6 errrs __________________ Ronnie (830).201.4063 Visit us @ Altered Diesel Wurks Mumau Diesel

08-02-2010, 11:44 PM	#244
srt cummins Name: srt cummins Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Artesia Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,788	P-pump 6.7 cr? Does anyone sell a complete kit or is it not worth it? I will drive my truck 10 miles a day and shooting for 900hp so is the p-pump driveable at that hp? I was just think a programmer and dual cp3's and so on I could just go with a p-pump right? __________________ 04.5 cummins slow poke 05 1500 ten year project

08-03-2010, 07:10 AM	#245
BgBlDodge Name: BgBlDodge Title: Hates hippies Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buda, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,647	stick with the cp3 __________________ 2003 Nissan 350z Touring 6mt 2000 4runner Limited Tyler Williams We have become educated beyond our intelligence. -Jerry Clower

08-08-2010, 02:32 PM	#246
RonA Name: RonA Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liberal ground zero. Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,058	I got it back on the road today. Mileage isn't great, just under 18, but I have been doing alot of short trips around the neighborhood playing with the tuning. I decided to re-plumb the air system for the afc and try to run if off the low pressure (cold pipe) side instead of manifold pressure. It's going to take a bit more tinkering to find just the right spring. It's still a bit tight right now and isn't allowing full arm travel till about 35psi(cold pipe). The injectors idle clean with the engine warmed up and an outside temp of 84 degrees. No visible smoke. I followed an older powerstroke into town just now and going up a modest grade at 62mph he was smoking alot more than i was. I did a couple of lazy 3/4 throttle roll ons from 70 to 110-120 or so and there is some haze, but it does not black out the road. I didn't try full throttle, but i can tell the fuel is lagging slightly behind the air. I looked down on the last run and saw the pyrometer was at 1200 just as i backed out of it. Hopefully i'll get some numbers toward the end of the month. __________________ 55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.

08-26-2010, 10:12 PM	#247
RonA Name: RonA Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liberal ground zero. Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,058	I've been putting a few miles on the new injectors. They require carefull use of the throttle. Too much too soon and it goes lethargic and rolls smoke. Mash the pedal and you can eat a sandwich before it lights. Roll into it just right and don't give it the last 1/4 of throttle till around 60psi and it runs really nice. I've been trying to get the afc spring just right and finally gave up and decided to just use better throttle control. I let if go to full fuel locked in second and shifted to third under power and it felt like I was rear ended by a train(god bless you Brad Ponci for building this transmission). We'll add the timing tomorrow and dyno saturday morning. __________________ 55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.

08-28-2010, 04:54 PM	#248
RonA Name: RonA Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liberal ground zero. Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,058	Got a chance to dyno the new injectors. On the first run they made 52hp more than the best I have made with the Mach 7's. It was a bit of a bummer because I started having some issues with the wastegates and we weren't able to add the additional timing I'd like to try. Smoke level and driveability are no worse than the Mach 7's. Made two trips to Redding and back(250 miles each) plus the dynos and was at 19mpg. Very pleased and looking forward to getting a chance to play with the tuning a bit more. __________________ 55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.

08-28-2010, 05:05 PM	#250
Smokem Name: Smokem Title: Turbler Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iowa Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,565	Good to hear Ron, the smoke issue sounds manageable since they are 1.3LPM larger than the 7's. __________________ Infinite Performance

08-28-2010, 05:14 PM	#251
RonA Name: RonA Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liberal ground zero. Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,058	I was hoping to break 950. I got 933 on the first run with only about 35psi out of the primary. I started messing with the gate plumbing and couldn't get it to do what i wanted for some reason. We'll try again some other time. __________________ 55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.

08-31-2010, 05:14 AM	#252
SWALLDOG Name: SWALLDOG Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woods Cross, Utah Member`s Gallery Posts: 454	good to hear Ron, thanks for the info and keep is updated on the tuning. __________________ 01 QC/SB 6-SPEED, COMPOUND TURBOS, SB DD, HYD-ASSIST STEERING, 255/70R 22.5 MICHELIN XD2 Truck Build - DD, Tow Rig and play! - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together

09-06-2010, 10:21 AM	#253
RonA Name: RonA Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liberal ground zero. Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,058	Checked the timing yesterday and I was at 22 degs. Timing was at 24 degs. with the 7's, so I expect to see a bit more of a difference when I bump it up. Wouldn't be suprised to see 100 hp difference between the 2 sets of injectors. I guess rainbows and baby foxes are a good thing Tim. __________________ 55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.

10-05-2010, 08:23 PM	#256
Kick Start Name: Kick Start Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisville, KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,173	So are we saying that 24valve ppump specific built injectors are better or that just lowering the pop off pressures are better? I'm not smart enuff to follow all the lingo but would like to know what all you smart fellows are talking about. __________________ lilspoon SPiT Diesel Piss Excellence All possible because of UNICORNS Wampus Cat Diesel

10-05-2010, 08:30 PM	#257
RonA Name: RonA Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liberal ground zero. Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,058	Either way works just fine. __________________ 55 years of work and all I got was a T-shirt.